Enhanced Web Admin

[j3flight]

I just need to create a new 'red' button :p

Oooh, even better!

[johnburton]

jksmurf

Just to finalise the missive there were two further steps I also needed to do:

1) Download and install VLC on the "client" so I could watch recorded shows etc.

2) Just for peace of mind I then finally went to site http://www.grc.com and ran ShieldsUp to check that my overall site was "secure".

I can see my next problem is that if I expose my site to friends etc - I will need a guest user signon that doesn't have delete or possibly record options. That is certainly an item for the wishlist however that activity is stretching the copyright tightrope even more.

[jksmurf]

1) Download and install VLC on the "client" so I could watch recorded shows etc.

Hmm, granted but this sort of gets away from the "WebAdmin" part of the Advanced Webadmin (which I thought was mainly for remote scheduling) and gets into the realm of Web Clients and Remote Viewing and Streaming Video, with all its own gotchas and gremlins. I haven't read the whole of this thread so I might be way off base here, but could anyone confirm whether the WebAdmin also intended as the default interface for this? I don't really know enough about VLC setup to make this work, presumably VLC goes on the client (i.e. where you are trying to watch it from).

2) Just for peace of mind I then finally went to site http://www.grc.com and ran ShieldsUp to check that my overall site was "secure".

Also a possibility to add, but (a) Lots of folks don't agree with Mr. Gibson and (b) Security is another whole field on its own! I think it best to simply say "Allowing remote webadmin may well compromise your security if you do not know what you are doing, so do check how best to maintain the security of your system" or something like that ... :-)

k.

[gEd]

I don't really know enough about VLC setup to make this work, presumably VLC goes on the client (i.e. where you are trying to watch it from)

(again, I have not read the entire thread)

Installing VLC on the client only just gives you (yet) another video player alongside the likes of WMP or media player classic etc.

This is probably fine for people with a high speed connection between client & server but for poeple (like me) using "old fashioned!" 802.11 b/g, clicking play would need to start vlc on the server, transcoding the video and streaming it to the specified ip of the client. You would then start vlc on the client to capture the network stream.

This works great when done manually, to be able to do it automatically would be truely awesome!

But it sounds like it could be (well) outside of the scope that the web admin author intended..

[martinatime]

Hmm, granted but this sort of gets away from the "WebAdmin" part of the Advanced Webadmin (which I thought was mainly for remote scheduling) and gets into the realm of Web Clients and Remote Viewing and Streaming Video, with all its own gotchas and gremlins. I haven't read the whole of this thread so I might be way off base here....

I've read most of the posts on this thread and there has been mention on how to get the playback to work through the web admin. Therefore I guess it would be up to the poster to determine if the question to be asked really has more to do with the web admin or with remote viewing. I do agree with you that the web admin is mainly for...well...admin.

Also a possibility to add, but (a) Lots of folks don't agree with Mr. Gibson and (b) Security is another whole field on its own!

I think you missed the point of the post from johnburton. I don't think he was really concerned about the security of his system as much as when he was checking that it spurred another idea. That idea being access control or rights administration based on the logon/password that is required when you sign into the webadmin. Right now there is only one account which has complete access (schedule, cancel, view, etc). johnburton correct me if I'm wrong.

P.S. I happen to agree with Mr. Gibson on many issues even though his manner of dealing with them is a little high-strung.

[jksmurf]

The initial intention for the missive/epistle/epic/whatever was to (hopefully) write a simple guide (in as much non-tech speak as possible) for john and anyone else who only wanted to get Webadmin access working (and as we have the same router), to point him (and any others) in the right direction for that.

Therefore I guess it would be up to the poster to determine if the question to be asked really has more to do with the web admin or with remote viewing.

I am not sure what you are getting at here. John wrote something about "Just to finalise the missive" so I thought he wanted me to update it with the VLC function. I thought it too unwieldy for the focus of the mini-how-to.

I think you missed the point of the post from johnburton.

Again, john wrote something about "Just to finalise the missive" so I thought his intention was that I should update the how-to with both these statements, which I did not fully agree with as this appeared to be a departure from the original intention of the mini-how-to.

Look, the comment on Mr. Gibson was a throw-away one. I have no strong opinion either way, I just know that there are websites devoted both to him and against him. He doesn't really figure into this discussion at all and I now regret writing (a) when just (b) would have sufficed.
k.

[normanr]

This is probably fine for people with a high speed connection between client & server but for people (like me) using "old fashioned!" 802.11 b/g, clicking play would need to start vlc on the server, transcoding the video and streaming it to the specified ip of the client. You would then start vlc on the client to capture the network stream.

This works great when done manually, to be able to do it automatically would be truely awesome!

At the moment, all the web admin is doing is streaming the file that is on the computer (via HTTP). So there's no transcoding or anything else going on. The bitrate required is the bitrate at which the recording was made.

The only reason VLC is recommended as a client is because both WiMP and WinAmp refuse to start playing the stream until the entire file has downloaded. VLC will start playing immediatly, but you'll notice that it recalculates the time of the file as it plays. You might be able to get WiMP/WinAmp to work, but I doubt with seeking. You probably need a full streaming server for that.

[normanr]

Right now there is only one account which has complete access (schedule, cancel, view, etc).

Actually there's the option of setting the username to 'autologin' which removes that requirement to login to change recordings, etc. You are forced to login if you want to get to the config tab

[martinatime]

Actually there's the option of setting the username to 'autologin' which removes that requirement to login to change recordings, etc. You are forced to login if you want to get to the config tab

That's cool! I'm running an older build (I think it's 25 or 26) and I don't recall seeing that option but it would definitely be the option I chose.

[martinatime]

The initial intention for the missive/epistle/epic/whatever was to (hopefully).....

:confused: I guess I missed the point then and I retract my earlier statements.