DVD's on MVP

[jorm]

I hear it can. You will be able to play CC or not on the fly on the mvp.

[Pioneer4x4]

I hear it can. You will be able to play CC or not on the fly on the mvp.

So if GBPVR records the show, and I use this to play back, it might work. Now if I can get the 150 to record the CCs.

My old WinTVPVR-PCI card in my other computer records them in WinTV2000, I might try it with those files.

[jorm]

that would be interesting. Much more cpu intensive.

[fvfv]

This is the first time I am able to transode an entire DVD folder (VIDEO_TS) into an mpeg overlaying subtitles and watching it on the MVP. It seems that we will finally be able to watch subtitles on the MVP.

Now, my only problem is that the resulting mpg file that is transcoded shows as 14 minutes instead of the whole 1:50 minutes of the source DVD. Since the FF and REW functions of the GBPVR/MVP software relies on minutes, not frames, you cannot ff or rew or jump on the movie.

Has anyone experience this problem ? Is there a mod I need to do to the VLC Command line so that the resulting mpg has the correct video length ?

I tried to run the resulting mpg to tmpgenc, reencoding it and the result is the same. 14 minutes. I also tried VideoREDO and oither tools. I cannot get it to show the real video length.

[pBS]

Pioneer4x4: everything i've seen says CC's aren't possible on the 150...as far as i know only the 250 can do it...maybe the 350..and the original PVR..
but if you can get the CC's out it can encode and overlay them
[subtitles,no problem]

fvfv: have you checked the size of the file? is there anything you can play it with that does play the whole movie?
may just be a truncated encode..
you are enocding both audio and video right? [jus checkin]
ya might try --sout-ffmpeg-keyint 16 if it isnt already there..

as far as i know there aren't any problems with vlc files,they usually have correct timecode..i use mencoder and it can do timestamp restructuring during the encode...and it can do the subtitles too
oh and what version VLC are you using?

[fvfv]

PBS:
Thanks for the quick reply.

The file size is about 4 gig, so it would be the right size. Played with WMP, or zoom player it show that the video length is about 14 minutes.

I am using VLC Version 0.8.4.

The entire VLC command line is :
C:\Progra~1\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe --sub-track=1 --sout=#transcode{vcodec=mp2v,vb=4096,interlace,acodec=mpga,ab=192,channels=2,soverlay}:duplicate{dst=std{access=file,mux=ps,url="%1"}} dvdsimple://%2@%3 :dvdnav-caching=700 --sout-ffmpeg-strict 1 --sout-ffmpeg-keyint 16 -I dummy --dummy-quiet --one-instance VLC:quit

I do have --sout-ffmpeg-stict 1 and --sout-ffmpeg-keyint 16 , just for the curious, what does that do ?

Also, if at all possible, you mention mencoder. Could you share with us the Command line that transcodes a VIDEO_TS folder with just the main title and the subtitles, say English, so that I can give that a try ?

[pBS]

hmmm,maybe try taking out the 'interlace' from your command line...[vb=4096,interlace,acodec=} i know by default vlc uses only interlaced motion estimation and works great...so maybe that's it...
i use mencoder and there are a couple of options i can't find in vlc and it spits out the nicest mpg's i've run across so far...using the 'tsaf' option [time stamps all frames] and interlaced dct it gives me seekable-while-recording files..
here's my command line for mencoder to use on dvd's :

Code:

mencoder.exe -ovc lavc -cache 10240 -dvd-device f: dvd://%title% -alang en  -oac lavc  -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd:tsaf  -ofps 24000/1001 -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video:vrc_buf_size=1835:vrc_maxrate=9800:vqscale=4.5:vmax_b_frames=2:keyint=16:acodec=mp2:abitrate=128:autoaspect -af volume=16 -idx -o dvdtemp.mpg

EDIT: oops,forgot you need to do a folder rip,so just substitute -dvd-device "c:\folderwithoutvideo_ts" but keep the title selector, dvd://1 [or whatever title you wish]

[note,the ac3-5.1 reader codec in both vlc *and* mencoder downmixes to 2 channels really badly and lowers the volume really bad,so i use -af volume=16 to bring back to normal levels,not possible with vlc as far as i know]
seems like the critical opts are the tsaf, ildct, and -idx to rebuild index..
the :vrc* stuff ensure dvd compat. and the -ofps 24000/1001 should only be used with progressive dvd's [99.9% of all dvd's]
[don't use with tv shows or anything you think was shot on video cameras [not filmed]]
it's ultra-fast and very adjustable....[too much so sometimes! lol]

oh and add -slang XX to specify subtitle language and overlay them
[ex: -slang en for english subs]

hope that helps...
it rocks them all for me...i even copied 'Stealth' this way,nothing else could do it easily..this'll rip any movie you can watch on computer

[pBS]

oh and i believe the strict line may be what was messing up you vlc encode..
try it without that and see if it works...the mencoder one should work tho..

oh and you need to use :dvdread-caching= with simpledvd in vlc..:dvdnav-caching is for regular dvd with menus..

[fvfv]

That is one of the best explanations I have ever seen on creating mpgs from DVD's.

A lot of people would benefit from using the mencode command line. This should be on a thread by itself.

I am at work now but definetely will try out the mencode route tonight.

Just imagine, having a huge collection of DVD's on your hard drive with subtitles overlayed so that they can be played on the MVP.

No more DVD burning

No more trying to find the DVD control and skipping all the FBI and stupid menus that DVDs have.

A Media Geek's dream come true.

[Pioneer4x4]

I have a quick question.

They way I under stand it is, the entire movie is being re-encoded with the subtitles added to the actual image based on the subtitle track in the vob file.

How is the quality of the picture since it is being re-encoded? Can you adjust font/color/location of the overlayed subtitles?

I have used DVD2MPEG, and love it since it does not touch the original video.