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setting up satellite correctly?
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2007-07-24, 06:02 PM
hi,
I just got hauppauge 1600 card setup into my HTPC and have some issues.

I setup the cable line to run straight into the tv input on the card, and setup the EPG and what not, and it works fine (only thing i didnt like was it changes channels really slowly... anyway to speed that up?)

Anyways, that's step 1.
The issue now, is that I have a Rex-I receiver that I use to get some international channels, and I'm trying to get that to go through the HTPC. I removed the cable input wire, and put the output from the reciver to go straight into the TV input on the card. I kind of didnt really know where to go from there though, since the thing should stay on 1 channel, and i must change the channel on the satellite reciver itself to change channels, but I couldnt get any thing from the satellite reciever to show.
If anyone could help me that'd be great.

Also, one more note: my card came with a blaster and for channel changer I selected USB-URIT (I think thats what I'm supposed to use). I then click settings and get a new window, then click the new button so I can add anew profile for my reciver. It then crashes when I do that. Any ideas on that as well?
thanks
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2007-07-24, 06:10 PM
csmaster2005 Wrote:I setup the cable line to run straight into the tv input on the card, and setup the EPG and what not, and it works fine (only thing i didnt like was it changes channels really slowly... anyway to speed that up?)
This is one ugly downside of having to use receive channels via a set top box - much slower channel change times (usually a combination of the speed the set top boxes changes + time for ir blaster to send channel numbers). This isnt really something GB-PVR can do anything about.

Quote:Anyways, that's step 1.
The issue now, is that I have a Rex-I receiver that I use to get some international channels, and I'm trying to get that to go through the HTPC. I removed the cable input wire, and put the output from the reciver to go straight into the TV input on the card. I kind of didnt really know where to go from there though, since the thing should stay on 1 channel, and i must change the channel on the satellite reciver itself to change channels, but I couldnt get any thing from the satellite reciever to show.
If anyone could help me that'd be great.
If you run the tuning assistant, does it find the RF channel the STB is using for transmitting the coax?

Quote:Also, one more note: my card came with a blaster and for channel changer I selected USB-URIT (I think thats what I'm supposed to use). I then click settings and get a new window, then click the new button so I can add anew profile for my reciver. It then crashes when I do that. Any ideas on that as well?
You dont have a USB-UIRT. You have a Hauppauge IR Blaster, which is an entirely different thing.

You need to run the Hauppauge BlastCFG utility and configure it so that it can control your set top box correct. Once that is done, edit your capture source and set it to use the '.exe channel changer' options, and point it at c:\program files\devnz\gbpvr\HaupBlast.exe.
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2007-07-24, 06:18 PM
sub Wrote:This is one ugly downside of having to use receive channels via a set top box - much slower channel change times (usually a combination of the speed the set top boxes changes + time for ir blaster to send channel numbers). This isnt really something GB-PVR can do anything about.

I understand if I was going through a box, but I mean for that issue, I am not using any box, I am using the standard cable that is coming out of the wall and is going straight into the computer. It's the standard 60 channels or what not. I think this should be fast (if I am using this on a tv its instant load etc, so It hink I may have something setup incorrectly, right now it's not using a box, nor a blaster etc, this is standard cable)

Quote:If you run the tuning assistant, does it find the RF channel the STB is using for transmitting the coax?
Can you please explain where this is? I couldnt find it, and had trouble finding help in the wiki. Also, as a side note, when I'm doing this, it's just the satellite reciever going straight into the computer, nothing to do with cable atm. later I'll try to figure out how to combine both (with a switch or something, we'll see)

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You dont have a USB-UIRT. You have a Hauppauge IR Blaster, which is an entirely different thing.

You need to run the Hauppauge BlastCFG utility and configure it so that it can control your set top box correct. Once that is done, edit your capture source and set it to use the '.exe channel changer' options, and point it at c:\program files\devnz\gbpvr\HaupBlast.exe.

Ya I just read that in another post when searching the forums. What I did was this: On the cd, I ran irblast.exe to install the software. So now in my system tray I have wintv remote control there. If I double click it all I see is a close button, and exitIR button. I then did what you had said above, and when I reloaded gbpvr the remote didnt respond or anything.


Anyways, thanks again for all the help sub, hopefully I can get almost everything tweaked out today!
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2007-07-24, 06:22 PM
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sub Wrote:This is one ugly downside of having to use receive channels via a set top box - much slower channel change times (usually a combination of the speed the set top boxes changes + time for ir blaster to send channel numbers). This isnt really something GB-PVR can do anything about.

I understand if I was going through a box, but I mean for that issue, I am not using any box, I am using the standard cable that is coming out of the wall and is going straight into the computer. It's the standard 60 channels or what not. I think this should be fast (if I am using this on a tv its instant load etc, so It hink I may have something setup incorrectly, right now it's not using a box, nor a blaster etc, this is standard cable)
It would usually take a couple of seconds to start live tv, and switching channels would take about half a second - unless you've disabled live preview mode, then it take 2 or 3 seconds to change channels.
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2007-07-24, 06:24 PM
Just a note, found the tuning assistant and found the channelt hat's showing what's coming from the satellite - channel 3 frequency 60,000,000
Not sure how to add that 1 channel in.
Also, just to test, i used the tuning assistant when the cable from the wall was plugged in, and had instant load, so I'mg oing to see if I have live preview mode disabled or what not.
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2007-07-24, 06:26 PM
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Quote:If you run the tuning assistant, does it find the RF channel the STB is using for transmitting the coax?
Can you please explain where this is? I couldnt find it, and had trouble finding help in the wiki. Also, as a side note, when I'm doing this, it's just the satellite reciever going straight into the computer, nothing to do with cable atm. later I'll try to figure out how to combine both (with a switch or something, we'll see)
Its installed with GB-PVR, so you'll find it created a shortcut in your start menu.

This utility just shows you what the tuner is receiving on each channel, which can be useful to see what channels are where coming from your set top box. Usually a set top box will transmit its channel on CH2 or CH3, which will show a picture in the Tuning Assistant, and the rest of the channels will just show static.


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You dont have a USB-UIRT. You have a Hauppauge IR Blaster, which is an entirely different thing.

You need to run the Hauppauge BlastCFG utility and configure it so that it can control your set top box correct. Once that is done, edit your capture source and set it to use the '.exe channel changer' options, and point it at c:\program files\devnz\gbpvr\HaupBlast.exe.
Ya I just read that in another post when searching the forums. What I did was this: On the cd, I ran irblast.exe to install the software. So now in my system tray I have wintv remote control there. If I double click it all I see is a close button, and exitIR button. I then did what you had said above, and when I reloaded gbpvr the remote didnt respond or anything.

Anyways, thanks again for all the help sub, hopefully I can get almost everything tweaked out today!
The wintv remote control icon is just for the remote not the blaster. Hauppauge install a separate BlastCFG app that needs to be used to configure for your set top box.
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2007-07-24, 06:29 PM
csmaster2005 Wrote:Just a note, found the tuning assistant and found the channelt hat's showing what's coming from the satellite - channel 3 frequency 60,000,000
Not sure how to add that 1 channel in.
You need to create a capture source with the recording source set to 'fixed channel, external tuner' then put "3" in the constant channel number. Then set up the EPG source so that all the channels available via that box are listed. (GB-PVR uses the channel number next to each of these when it sends the channel number via the IR Blaster)
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2007-07-24, 06:35 PM
sub Wrote:Its installed with GB-PVR, so you'll find it created a shortcut in your start menu.

This utility just shows you what the tuner is receiving on each channel, which can be useful to see what channels are where coming from your set top box. Usually a set top box will transmit its channel on CH2 or CH3, which will show a picture in the Tuning Assistant, and the rest of the channels will just show static.
Ok it responds on channel 3 frequency 60,000,000
How can I add that to the list?
NM just saw your message above.
Quote:The wintv remote control icon is just for the remote not the blaster. Hauppauge install a separate BlastCFG app that needs to be used to configure for your set top box.

yes I've installed both. I was trying to just get the remote ot let me scroll through the cable channels untill I get further in the satellite setup, so I can work on the blaster portion.
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2007-07-24, 06:44 PM
ok I just added the channel as you stated previously.
Now things are getting confusing.

I have 3 sources setup.
The one i made last week for the HDTV channels that I am getting OTA and through another tuner.

Then the 2 I added today - the cableTV that comes from the wall, and the satellite one.

Now my guide has all of these listed, and I cant even find the channel 3 I added seperately for the satellite.
My main question is there a more organized way I can see between the sources etc? Also, do you have any recommendations on how I could have all 3 inputs connected at the same time possibly? I do have a hauppauge 1600 and am only using1 of the inputs since the other one I dont think has encoding. So basically right now I have 2 cards, 3 inputs, alot of channels listed in the guide, cant find the channel 3 I added, only the satellite plugged into the computer ATM.

Also, I still havent been able to get the remote to do anything, not sure what all I'm doing wrong, just trying to be able to change channels with it ATM with the wall cable untill I get satellite further and start messing with the blaster.
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2007-07-24, 07:49 PM
csmaster2005 Wrote:ok I just added the channel as you stated previously.
Now things are getting confusing.

I have 3 sources setup.
The one i made last week for the HDTV channels that I am getting OTA and through another tuner.

Then the 2 I added today - the cableTV that comes from the wall, and the satellite one.
While you're getting your head around how the how the satellite setup works, you may find it easier to temporarily try it with a new capture source on an empty database. Backup original database first though.

Once you've got your head around it, it'll probably make more sense to you.

Quote:Now my guide has all of these listed, and I cant even find the channel 3 I added seperately for the satellite.
You shouldnt have a 'channel 3'. Instead the TV Guide should list all of the channels available via that capture source. You might have 500 channels - they'll all be listed.

When the app needs to use that capture source to watch or record any of those channels, it'll switch the tuner to channel 3, and send the appropriate channel number out of the ir blaster.

Quote:My main question is there a more organized way I can see between the sources etc? Also, do you have any recommendations on how I could have all 3 inputs connected at the same time possibly? I do have a hauppauge 1600 and am only using1 of the inputs since the other one I dont think has encoding. So basically right now I have 2 cards, 3 inputs, alot of channels listed in the guide, cant find the channel 3 I added, only the satellite plugged into the computer ATM.
GB-PVR does not let the user manually switch between tuners. It manages this to make sure it has tuners available for recording etc. It keeps a list of which tuners can record which channels, and allocates them out based on a set of rules.

Quote:Also, I still havent been able to get the remote to do anything, not sure what all I'm doing wrong, just trying to be able to change channels with it ATM with the wall cable untill I get satellite further and start messing with the blaster.
Does the Hauppauge remote work in any software? Assuming the remote is working, then all you should have to do to get it working with GB-PVR is click the 'fix Hauppauge remote settings' button in the config app, and restart the Hauppauge remote software.

When it comes to the blaster, you need to make sure you have blastcfg and your capture source configured as I described earlier in the thread. The app will automatically tell the blaster to change to specific channel when it needs to for recording or live tv.
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