is Zprocess' mpeg4 mpeg4-2, or mpeg4-10?

[Deusxmachina]

I'd like to transcode HD mpeg2 into .264/AAC into an .mp4 container. Zprocess has mpeg4 as an option, but I'm guessing that's the older mpeg4-2 and not mpeg4-10 (h.264). Correct? If so, is a .264 option hard to add?

[zehd]

I'd like to transcode HD mpeg2 into .264/AAC into an .mp4 container. Zprocess has mpeg4 as an option, but I'm guessing that's the older mpeg4-2 and not mpeg4-10 (h.264). Correct? If so, is a .264 option hard to add?

I have no idea. I use the more standard containers...

To add the option requires me to have a need to add the option, and the tools with which to test...

I know nothing about what you're talking about. Undoubtedly, the file formats are limitations to the transcoder software. Last year I started looking at newer versions of ffmpeg and mencoder to allow for direct dvr-ms conversions. I left it half way done. I was planning on getting back to it...

But I have no idea about the format you talked about, and don't really have the time to dig into it...

[Deusxmachina]

I know nothing about what you're talking about.

You know, h.264. (x.264 to some people.) I'm guessing the mpeg4 available in the program is the mpeg4-2 version, which is basically divx. Mpeg4-10 is another name for h.264 used on Blu-Ray and for HD in the UK and all that.

Stattik's automated comskip/mencoder plugin can do h.264, but it puts it in an .avi container, which I'd like to avoid as well as use the functions in Zprocess.

On the transcoding page in Zprocess, if the Transcode Profile is set to 2ipod, at the bottom of the page "mp4" can be chosen in "Force" and ".mp4" can be chosen for "Dest Ext".

So the .mp4 extension can already be chosen, but it looks like h.264 isn't an encoding option. I have Mencoder installed, but Zprocess isn't showing it. But if h.264 still wouldn't suddenly become available as a transcoding option, then using Mencoder instead of FFmpeg doesn't really matter.

The .mp4 container is available, but not h.264 video to put in it. I didn't think it'd be easy to add since I don't see any transcoding scripts that I could maybe just add a command line if I got Mencoder to work with it, so that's probably out but figured it was worth a question.

[zehd]

You know, h.264. (x.264 to some people.) I'm guessing the mpeg4 available in the program is the mpeg4-2 version, which is basically divx. Mpeg4-10 is another name for h.264 used on Blu-Ray and for HD in the UK and all that.

Stattik's automated comskip/mencoder plugin can do h.264, but it puts it in an .avi container, which I'd like to avoid as well as use the functions in Zprocess.

On the transcoding page in Zprocess, if the Transcode Profile is set to 2ipod, at the bottom of the page "mp4" can be chosen in "Force" and ".mp4" can be chosen for "Dest Ext".

So the .mp4 extension can already be chosen, but it looks like h.264 isn't an encoding option. I have Mencoder installed, but Zprocess isn't showing it. But if h.264 still wouldn't suddenly become available as a transcoding option, then using Mencoder instead of FFmpeg doesn't really matter.

The .mp4 container is available, but not h.264 video to put in it. I didn't think it'd be easy to add since I don't see any transcoding scripts that I could maybe just add a command line if I got Mencoder to work with it, so that's probably out but figured it was worth a question.

You know that your software has really taken off when a user can tell me how to use it...

Alright there're two things I read. First, is that if the transcoder can do it, I can make ZProcess use that feature. Gotta find a version of ffmpeg or mencoder that will do it though. You said you were having trouble finding commandlines/transcoders that would do what you want...

It worries me that ZProcess won't find Mencoder (You ARE using ZProcess2 aren't you?) (I'm not supporting ZProcess1 anymore)

ZProcess2 REQUIRES Mencoder and Mplayer. It won't get aspect ratio or dimensions without them. So it would certainly be something to look into. You can choose the path to your mplayer/mencoder path if you aren't using the default path...

[Deusxmachina]

You know that your software has really taken off when a user can tell me how to use it...

Not sure what you mean by that. I've only had it installed for a day and was trying to get h.264 to work in it somehow. Looks like pretty much every option someone could want is in there except that.

And, yep, of course I was trying this with Zprocess1 not 2 and in the middle of things forgot it's not supported. Installing 2 now....

[zehd]

Not sure what you mean by that. I've only had it installed for a day and was trying to get h.264 to work in it somehow. Looks like pretty much every option someone could want is in there except that.

And, yep, of course I was trying this with Zprocess1 not 2 and in the middle of things forgot it's not supported. Installing 2 now....

i meant that in a cool way.

[Deusxmachina]

Started playing around with 2. Yep, sure is easy to get Mencoder working when it has a big "Hey, you! Put the mencoder link here!" window pop up.

Mencoder (and newer ffmpegs) can definitely do h.264 because Stattik's automated comclean/transcoder uses it and can do it. But that puts it in an .avi container, which everything I've ever read says don't do that. I'm looking into being able to change that option, but even if it can easily be changed, Zprocess still does some things other plugins can't.

h.264 is better than basically everything else, although it's not THAT big of a deal. I just didn't know how hard it would be to get it working since if it's the best then it may as well be used if possible.

There's pretty much every other option already in Zprocess, just not h.264 video or .mkv container. .mp4 container is already in there in the ipod template. I prefer .264 video in a .mp4 container, but more people probably prefer .264 in a .mkv. So if you get around to adding more transcoding options, the two mains ones are h.264 and .mkv.

[zehd]

Started playing around with 2. Yep, sure is easy to get Mencoder working when it has a big "Hey, you! Put the mencoder link here!" window pop up.

Mencoder (and newer ffmpegs) can definitely do h.264 because Stattik's automated comclean/transcoder uses it and can do it. But that puts it in an .avi container, which everything I've ever read says don't do that. I'm looking into being able to change that option, but even if it can easily be changed, Zprocess still does some things other plugins can't.

h.264 is better than basically everything else, although it's not THAT big of a deal. I just didn't know how hard it would be to get it working since if it's the best then it may as well be used if possible.

There's pretty much every other option already in Zprocess, just not h.264 video or .mkv container. .mp4 container is already in there in the ipod template. I prefer .264 video in a .mp4 container, but more people probably prefer .264 in a .mkv. So if you get around to adding more transcoding options, the two mains ones are h.264 and .mkv.

Actually, the two main ones are divx and xvid in an avi container. I haven't bothered with anything else. They're standard. It's like rar instead of zip.

Standards are important. And until mp4, .264 and .mkv become so prevalent that they become a standard, and therefore everywhere, and therefore necessary for me to work with regularily, without choice, I don't see the point.

But anyway, if you replace the mencoder with the version that stattik uses, and then in ZProcess, change the output container, then it should be fine. I even think that you can type in your own extension, so .mkv seems possible...

[Deusxmachina]

Actually, the two main ones are divx and xvid in an avi container.

Standards are important. And until mp4, .264 and .mkv become so prevalent that they become a standard,

Certainly divx and xvid are common formats. I meant "the two main ones that aren't already in Zprocess."

I don't understand the standards part. H.264 is probably the most popular format other than divx/xvid and mpeg right now, and it compresses better than all of them. Video cards now have chips dedicated to the single purpose of decoding that format. It is a standard for HDDVD and Blu-Ray and ipods as well as for TV in numerous countries around the world. In more ways than not, it is the present and future of television.

I'll try the replace Mencoder and force extension stuff later today. It'd be great if that's all it takes.

[zehd]

Certainly divx and xvid are common formats. I meant "the two main ones that aren't already in Zprocess."

I don't understand the standards part. H.264 is probably the most popular format other than divx/xvid and mpeg right now, and it compresses better than all of them. Video cards now have chips dedicated to the single purpose of decoding that format. It is a standard for HDDVD and Blu-Ray and ipods as well as for TV in numerous countries around the world. In more ways than not, it is the present and future of television.

I'll try the replace Mencoder and force extension stuff later today. It'd be great if that's all it takes.

Ummm, basically, everything you said is "I'll need to upgrade"...

What I mean by Standard, is something that EVERYBODY has already...

And that's the way it is, you want a video off torrents, more people will grab a divx/xvid avi. Perhaps anyone who has kept up with the Jones' and knows that 264 is better will serach for 264 rips, but you still have to be in the loop...

I'm talking people who are not in loop... I'm one of them. Not interested in moving forward, untill I've exhausted the present...

Or I reinstall...