Multiple tuner recording order problems...

[Pilot]

This was mentioned in another thread and I thought I had it resolved, but I just discovered with my first set of recordings this evening that it's not.

I have a 1 PVR500 (dual tuner) using the internal tuners and set as #1 and #2. I then have a 1 PVR150 using the internal tuner set as #3. Because the nitwits at Comcast Cable decidd to move one of my most recorded channels up to the digital tier, I had to hook up the cable company's STB to my PVR150 composite connection and also set it to #3. There is only one channel in the EPG for this capture device. The sort order of the capture devices is:

PVR500 Tuner #1
PVR500 Tuner #2
PVR150 (Internal Tuner)
PVR150 (STB)

I rarely use GBPVR to watch LiveTV, so I figured the best place for the PVR150 is the bottom of the list.

So Thursday evenings are rather busy for recording shows at my house, and when I checked on my first set of recordings, I noticed that the PVR150 STB was in use (as it should be to record the one digital channel), but then a recording on another (analog) channel starting at the same time for some reason chose the PVR150 (Internal Tuner) for the recording (which is supposed to be a physical impossibility). Why wasn't the PVR500 Tuner #1 chosen? I thought scheduled recordings started from the top of the tuner list and LiveTV started from the bottom? I understand why the one digital channel went with the PVR150 (STB) at the bottom of the list, since that's the only capture source that offers that one channel.

I checked my config.xml and made sure that "PreferAlternatingCaptureSources" setting was set to False.

I double-checked (actually triple-checked) that the both the composite and the internal tuner capture sources for the PVR150 were set to be the same number (#3).

I double-checked that I was using the PVR150MCE driver for both of these capture sources (that's what was causing my problem in the other thread -- I was using PVR150 for one and PVR150MCE for the other).

Is there something else I'm missing in the config or the setup of the tuners that could cause this problem?

[zehd]

BTW, the Device Number is set at Config | Capture Sources | [(specific source highlighted)] | Edit | Edit Recording Source | Recording Source Settings | Board Number: Capture Device 1,2,3 etc...

This is how your capture source list should look:

Code:

PVR500 1 set to Capture Device #1
PVR500 2 set to Capture Device #2

This is actually one single card pretending to be two cards
One 500 card (pretends to be two 150s)

Code:

PVR150 (Internal Tuner) set to Capture Device #1
PVR150 (STB) set to Capture Device #1

One 150 card, actually has several different input methods, but it's only one card. Because there is only one PVR150 in your machine. If you had two of them the second would be device #2.

The wiki has these notes. There's a tool that will help you confirm the board numbers as the system see them...

I have done exactly what you want, and this is exactly what must be done. If it's still clear as mud, then I will have to explain it a different way...

http://gbpvr.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FAQ/DeviceTypeCheck

[stustunz]

actually if you have both a 150 and a 500 in the same mqachine they are numbered #1 #2 #3
that tool zehd mentioned will sort it for you though

and because you want to use the composite input it is important you get the numbering on that card correct it will be the same number for both say #3

[zehd]

actually if you have both a 150 and a 500 in the same mqachine they are numbered #1 #2 #3
that tool zehd mentioned will sort it for you though

and because you want to use the composite input it is important you get the numbering on that card correct it will be the same number for both say #3

Well one of us is right !!!

[stustunz]

i didnt mean it to sound like that im often wrong
apart from when it comes to the mrs then im always wrong

basically he needs to use the tool on the wiki thats how i got mine sorted ages ago

[Pilot]

Thanks, folks! Unfortunately, the tool pretty much told me that I have it configured correctly with one exception -- the PVR500 and PVR500 with FM were switched. But that shouldn't make a difference about what happens with the PVR150 internal tuner and PVR150 composite, which are both the same device number.

Here's what I had configured:

Device #1 is PVR150MCE
Device #2 is PVR500
Device #3 is PVR500 with FM

Here's what the DeviceTypeCheck tool reported that I should have:

Device #1 is PVR150MCE
Device #2 is PVR500 with FM
Device #3 is PVR500

So the only difference is the device # settings for the PVR500 tuners, and again, I don't think that should've caused a problem with the recording order for the PVR150, which is at the bottom of the list in the configuration. Both the Composite and Internal Tuner capture devices are configured to be Device #1. Does this Device Type # take precedence over the sort order that I chose in the Config app? This is what I have for tuner order in the Config:

PVR500
PVR500 with FM
PVR150MCE Internal Tuner
PVR150MCE Composite/STB

That's the only reason I can think of that the PVR150 Internal Tuner would be the first of the four configured sources to start recording instead of the first PVR500 tuner.

Still confused...I must be missing some little tidbit. That's what usually happens with me.

[stustunz]

did you have any recording scheduled before adding the composite (reoccurring or otherwise)

if you did then the pvr500 maybe already scheduled to be used further on
im not sure the right way to correct this but if i found something similar happening to me when i went to multirecord so i canceled all pending/reocurring recordings
and started over took a while but its better than the mrs saying you missed my show

tuners to be used works like this:
recording it sarts using the first available tuner from the top
live tv starts at the bottom and works ita way up

[Pilot]

did you have any recording scheduled before adding the composite (reoccurring or otherwise)

if you did then the pvr500 maybe already scheduled to be used further on
im not sure the right way to correct this but if i found something similar happening to me when i went to multirecord so i canceled all pending/reocurring recordings
and started over took a while but its better than the mrs saying you missed my show

tuners to be used works like this:
recording it sarts using the first available tuner from the top
live tv starts at the bottom and works ita way up

You know, when I canceled the erroneous two recordings on the one PVR150 and then restarted/rescheduled them, they went to the appropriate tuner (the first PVR500 tuner). I'm betting you are correct -- I need to reprogram all my reoccuring recordings. It's not too difficult, but it stinks because I will lose the feature of it not recording repeats, which is a great feature, but for some reason I always end up rebuilding my GBPVR system (or reinstalling/reconfiguring the tuners) before I get a chance to use the feature!

Recording from the top and LiveTV from the bottom is what I understood the order to be as well. I'll delete all my reoccuring shows and reschedule them and report back. Thanks for the suggestion.

[stustunz]

im not sure if emptying the epg does the same thing
really need sub to confirm how it works and there is a better way

[Pilot]

I'm not sure if emptying the EPG would do the same thing as what we're talking about. For one thing, I've now tried it and it didn't work. However, deleting and rescheduling all reoccurring shows has (so far) worked just fine -- exactly the way it's supposed to (recordings start from the first tuner and LiveTV from the last tuner).

Sub warned me previously that mucking around with my tuner configs, changing EPG sources, etc., can cause similar problems (or just problems in general). I should know better.

Thanks for the suggestion of recreating the reoccurring recordings. You saved me a lot of future headaches, heartaches, and greatly improved the WAF/FAF for my GBPVR system.