Support for Anysee E7 T2C tuner with CI+ requested (for Boxer, Sweden)

[Barsk]

Hi!

It would seem that the AnySee E7 T2C may be the solution to the situation in Sweden with terrestial broadcaster Boxer. Boxer does today encrypt all mpeg-4 and HD channels with a technique that requires a CI+ capable hardware CAM. The CAM includes an embedded encryption key that enables the decoding of those channels. Until now all attempts to use a software CAM has been futile since noone has the decryption key. If that was found however it could be fed to OSCam (a softcam) which can handle this decryption. The prospect of that is slim and the proper way to go is to use an official hardware CAM that has the key embedded. The E7 does all this and it is now reported that mpeg4 and HD channels from Boxer work with this tuner.

There is an SDK to enable the decoding which I guess has to be supported in NPVR. This is where Sub comes in...

The SDK and other info can be found here: http://www.anysee.com/eng/download/TC_Series.php

(Edit: This is of course for anybody with an operator demanding CI+ decoding, not only Boxer)

[sub]

If you can get them to supply a sample device, then I can try to add support for the their CI solution.

[Barsk]

Ok, great!

I will send them a request for a sample device.

[Barsk]

Sub, could you investigate wether the Anysee E7 T2C is available for purchase in your region and what the cost is? I haven't gotten any response from my request for a sample device so I am thinking of donating a sum that covers the price of a device. Another solution is that I purchase one here and send it to you, but that seems more complicated. Is this doable?

I am really eager to get this solution to work. As it seems more and more channels in the future will go this route with CI+ encyption, especially all HD channels. And the prospect of scrapping my HTPC with NPVR for a settop box is not appealing at all.

Antoher plus is that the setup for a fully working HTPC with encoded channels would be much easier for a newbie. No phoenix readers, softcams or card sharing programs. That would be just great.

/Barsk

[sub]

Unfortunately I cant see any for sale in this part of the world.

[Barsk]

Hello sub,

I have investigated a bit in the subject and there are two shops in Germany where a purchase with worldwide shipping can be made. My suggestion is that you make the purchase yourself and get the stuff delivered to your home adress. I, Reddwarf and hopefully some more (will ask for contribution in the forums) will cover your expenses by donation.

There are two models available, one internal and cheaper, one external. Both use USB connections so even with the "internal" you should be able to connect to it externally over standard USB. Would the internal suffice? It seems cheaper. I have emailed them about shipping prices to NZ and will hopefully have an answer soon.

Internal cheaper model:
http://hfx.at/de/index.php?page=shop.pro...&Itemid=54

External model:
http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php/...-HDTV.html
and
http://hfx.at/de/index.php?page=shop.pro...&Itemid=54


Before all this though, would it be possible for you to make a request yourself to Anysee to see if you have any success? My emails seems to have gone unanswered...

[sub]

Ok. I've emailed them.

[mvallevand]

I am really eager to get this solution to work. As it seems more and more channels in the future will go this route with CI+ encyption, especially all HD channels. And the prospect of scrapping my HTPC with NPVR for a settop box is not appealing at all.

With SageMCTuner and the NetworkTuner plugin for NPVR any tuner that works with Media Centre can be controlled with NPVR. It would remain to be tested with the resulting .ts and .wtv files are encrypted.

Martin

[Barsk]

Ok, interesting. I did not know there was a "remote" tuner plugin that could be used. However, it seems like a last prio solution to me. I would prefer a native solution in NPVR any day.

Btw, I have gotten a quote on the shipping price from htx.at in Germany to Wellington, NZ on the cheaper of the two Anysee tuners and it is a whopping 75 Euro. So the end price of that is 164 Euro. The end price of the external device from dvbshop.net is 176 Euro. The price diff is neglitable so it's a pick and choose.

I'll wait for the reply from Anysee to Sub, to see if they are willing to donate. Otherwise there will be a request on the forum for donations. If noone is interested I will donate the sum myself. All in all it is a cheaper solution than bying a settop box that remotely resembles what I have with my HTPC...

[Barsk]

Unfortunately it seems that this solution is not the holy grail I was hoping for. The tuner does NOT have a CI+ slot, only CI.
Boxer has not activated CI+ at the time and that is why this tuner works with HD and mpeg-4 channels at the moment. However it is expected that CI+ will be activated at any time, and thus renders the solution useless. It seems that no DVB tuner with CI+ is certified. For this to happen the TS stream must be handled and stored encrypted in the PC and only be decrypted at the time of viewing. Since no tuner manufacturer can guarantee that, no CI+ certification can be done. This is how I have interpreted it anyway.

So for the moment I am taking a rest from this and awaiting more information. If it shows that CI+ will not be used (a lot of consumers would not be able to view TV anymore with their current hardware) we might take up this again...

I guess Sub did not recieve any response from AnySee on his email, btw?