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my wishlist coming from other pvrs
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2011-10-02, 11:27 AM (This post was last modified: 2011-10-02, 11:34 AM by reven.)
hey sub not sure if you have time or desire for these but here are the things I miss the most from other PVRs.

- channel groups: with all sky channels, theres about 70 channels, its nice having groups like "General Entertainment", "Movies", etc you can switch between in the guide. Also changing channels during live tv a popup listing whats on scrolling up/down between channels and pushing left/right changes group and whats currently displayed in the list. the for the record plugin for mediaportal (might even be in mediaportal) does this and its really helpful and the best way ive seen to change channels during live tv.
- video inset/background: not sure where this went, use to be in gbpvr (not sure if it was in PVRX2) but its nice being able to go back to the menu without stopping playback.
- nice way to renumber channels. i had to double click on every channel and set the number in the popup for 70ish channels, nicer if it was a datatable and pushing enter went to the next row.
- option to auto play videos in a folder if only one video in that folder. all my movies are stored like \\server\movies\petes dragon\pete dragon.mkv. using folders as its the recommended way these days to store background and fanart together in the same folder
- codec info for playing video - doesnt have to be huge details but 720p, 1080p, dts, ac3 etc. just the basic in the blue info bar.
- keep settings: allow default to user configured (this might be in the config.xml file?) i never want "all" i want every to auto expire, so my default would be latest 10 recordings. also add keep date option, rather than last 10 recordings, keep for 7 days (my default in for the record was 14 days).

there are lots more, but thats a semi realistic list i suppose, video inset might be a lot of work... channel groups in guide and tv channel changing is my number one.

and since no one likes hearing whats bad/needs improving all the time. i just want to say you're doing a terrific job, nextpvr (not sure if ill ever get use to call it that) is a fantastic pvr, easiest to setup, best performance ive seen with live tv and recordings. but gbpvr was always the most reliable pvr i ever used.
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2011-10-02, 11:36 AM
reven Wrote:channel groups in guide and tv channel changing is my number one.

and since no one likes hearing whats bad/needs improving all the time. i just want to say you're doing a terrific job, nextpvr (not sure if ill ever get use to call it that) is a fantastic pvr, easiest to setup, best performance ive seen with live tv and recordings. but gbpvr was always the most reliable pvr i ever used.

Hi reven, not sure about the channel changing BUT Alibert ported his brilliant TV listings plugin from GB-PVR to NextPVR.

http://www.nextpvr.com/nwiki/pmwiki.php?...TVListings

this will give you Groups in the Guide:

"Support for multiple TV Guides"

and while you're at it I would also like to thank sub to for such a great PVR proggie Big Grin

cheers

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2011-10-02, 11:43 AM
thanks steeb a plugin is great and all, but by putting channel groups into the core, other frontends can take advantage of this. since nextpvr seems to be more client friendly now, channel groups could be used in the webadmin, a xbmc client, the main nextpvr pvr app, the next pvr windows interface etc Smile
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2011-10-02, 11:44 AM
reven Wrote:thanks steeb a plugin is great and all, but by putting channel groups into the core, other frontends can take advantage of this. since nextpvr seems to be more client friendly now, channel groups could be used in the webadmin, a xbmc client, the main nextpvr pvr app, the next pvr windows interface etc Smile

I hear ya Big Grin
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2011-10-02, 02:47 PM
reven Wrote:Also changing channels during live tv a popup listing whats on scrolling up/down between channels and pushing left/right changes group and whats currently displayed in the list.
Try presing up/down and then Alt+B during Live TV.

reven Wrote:video inset/background: not sure where this went, use to be in gbpvr (not sure if it was in PVRX2) but its nice being able to go back to the menu without stopping playback.
Already there and mapped to the Home key.

reven Wrote:option to auto play videos in a folder if only one video in that folder.
If I ever finish my Videos+ plugin, you'll have this functionality.

reven Wrote:codec info for playing video - doesnt have to be huge details but 720p, 1080p, dts, ac3 etc. just the basic in the blue info bar.
If I ever *start* my MediaInfo plugin, it'll handle that.

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2011-10-02, 06:59 PM
imilne Wrote:Try presing up/down and then Alt+B during Live TV.
thats just a very basic channel change, and scrolling through a list of 70 odd channels takes ages this way. by making channel groups you can scroll up/down between channels, and left/right to change groups. eg if i was on "general entertainment" group 17 shows would be shown (say about 8 on screen in a list at a time with a looping list) and by pressing "right" i changed to the "movies" group which listed 6 channels. that way instead of scrolling down 20 odd times, i can get to movies in a couple of key presses.

Quote:Already there and mapped to the Home key.
oh that probably explains it, i was using a wireless apple keyboard with no home key. i thought escape would have take me back to the menus but kept the video playing and stop would only be the thing to stop it (this is how mce, xbmc, boxee, plex, and i think mediaportal work)

Quote:If I ever finish my Videos+ plugin, you'll have this functionality.
yeah a plugin is nice, but for such a little thing, it would be nice if that was built into the core videos plugin

Quote:If I ever *start* my MediaInfo plugin, it'll handle that.
once again plugin is nice, but it would be nice if this was in the default blue info popup.

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2011-10-02, 07:07 PM
reven Wrote:thats just a very basic channel change, and scrolling through a list of 70 odd channels takes ages this way. by making channel groups you can scroll up/down between channels, and left/right to change groups. eg if i was on "general entertainment" group 17 shows would be shown (say about 8 on screen in a list at a time with a looping list) and by pressing "right" i changed to the "movies" group which listed 6 channels. that way instead of scrolling down 20 odd times, i can get to movies in a couple of key presses
I'll probably implement some of the easier changes you mention in the top post, but its unlikely I'll implement this left/right to change groups. I've been intending for a long tim to enhance the current up/down behaviour to also support pressing left/right to see whats coming up next etc. This is the way the bulk of set top boxes work, so already very familiar to most users.
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2011-10-02, 07:08 PM
Reven, I disagree with you on many points. If NPVR was a community project sure bring it on., but because of the "one guy" thing, I think that sub should work to make the core strong and leave advanced features to plugins. I proposed what I thought was a compromise, ie allowing a framework to build on the core libraries but sub didn't like this.

You can always group by using your own grouped channel number and then navigate the guide by channel number. I have this because my cable provider breaks them down 100, 200, 300 etc. and you could make this as fine as you'd like.

I disklike Esc as stop too, but many,many people use the back/exit key as stop I think it would be hard to break that habit.

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2011-10-02, 08:25 PM
mvallevand Wrote:Reven, I disagree with you on many points. If NPVR was a community project sure bring it on., but because of the "one guy" thing, I think that sub should work to make the core strong and leave advanced features to plugins. I proposed what I thought was a compromise, ie allowing a framework to build on the core libraries but sub didn't like this.

You can always group by using your own grouped channel number and then navigate the guide by channel number. I have this because my cable provider breaks them down 100, 200, 300 etc. and you could make this as fine as you'd like.

I disklike Esc as stop too, but many,many people use the back/exit key as stop I think it would be hard to break that habit.

Martin

my list i thought was a realistic list, nothing major on it. i didnt say "improve the gui with animations and meta data grab from thetvdb.org or themoviedb.org", just a few smallish things that i found really good/useful in other PVRs. taking the best of those and putting them into nextpvr.

Quote:I'll probably implement some of the easier changes you mention in the top post, but its unlikely I'll implement this left/right to change groups. I've been intending for a long tim to enhance the current up/down behaviour to also support pressing left/right to see whats coming up next etc. This is the way the bulk of set top boxes work, so already very familiar to most users.
thats cool, are there still video overlay plugins (cant remember what they were called, but plugins that can run as onscreen display on top of videos)? that way i could write a plugin for the channel change. assuming i could active it on the "channel up/down" buttons, that plugin could request and that channel change. then as long as the core just supported "channel groups" i could accomplish the rest.
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2011-10-02, 08:55 PM
Yes, video overlay plugins still exist, and they can monitor all keypresses, even when not active, and can do stuff like change channels. It'd probably still trigger the built-in logic, but I'm sure I can do something to allow you disable that.

I have had some plans to include channel groups (you'll see "all channels" as the only current option when you right click and select 'Channels' from the context menu).
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