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Recommended Mux for H264 .TS in NZ

 
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Recommended Mux for H264 .TS in NZ
mobiusnz
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2008-07-09, 05:34 AM
Ok - I've finally put one of my Hauppauge Nova-T-500 Cards in my lounge pc - I have two cards but the one I'd never taken out of the box turned out to be a dud so its going back for replacement. So I'm currently running 1 Nova-T-500 and one WinTV 500mce.

My problem is with playback of the H264 stuff. If I run Mux Checker it reports I don't have one at all. I have PowerDVD8 installed and recordings playback fine in that. Windows Media player won't playback at all - It simply freezes on the first frame and doesn't progress. If I select TS Mux I can playback in GBPVR with mixed results - TV1,2 and C4 play well, keep sync but after a while we find we have trouble skipping backward and forward - The short skips with the FFWD and RWD buttons do odd things like going forward instead of backward and the 1 minute back (I have the skip buttons set to 60 seconds) doesn't work, if I hold it down it will start skipping back 1 second at a time. Full TS seems to behave the same. DVR-MS doesn't play, it behaves like Windows Media Player and simply freezes on a frame.

Is the MUX used for Mux and DeMux? I thought from the documentation that the MUX related to recordings?

I'm using the Monogram AAC Decoder version 0.9.5.0 and the GBPVR TS Reader.

I'm also having problems with the Audio being a little out on TV3 recordings - when I was recording using the same Nova-T-500 in a different (Old P4 1.6) in the Garage they played back fine in the Lounge -does this indicate its the Mux I'm using to record?

Where do I start to tweak this! I'm using a 9600GT with 512mb and recordings play with very low CPU.
[SIZE="1"]Matt Beechey
Intel i5-4440, 4096mb DDR3 Ram, Windows 7 Pro
2 x Hauppauge Nova-T 500 (2 out of 4 of these I've bought works! Great QC Hauppauge!)
1 x Hauppauge hvr-2200 and 1 x Hauppauge Colossus
500gb Seagate for O/S
2 x 500GB SATA3 WD Black in a Windows Stripe for recordings
All hidden in the garage with an Intel i5 NUC and a logitech Harmony one remote in the lounge for playback.
Panasonic 65" 2013 GT Series 3D plasma

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New Zealand - Go Crusaders![/SIZE]
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2008-07-09, 05:50 AM
The "TS Mux" option is always used for H.264 recordings (regardless of what you have selected, except 'Full TS') since this type of video cant be stored in the .mpg files created by the Cyberlink and ATI muxes, and cant be stored in the .dvr-ms files created by the Microsoft DVR-MS mux.

mobiusnz Wrote:My problem is with playback of the H264 stuff. If I run Mux Checker it reports I don't have one at all.
The MuxChecker just looks for external muxes, specifically the Cyberlink and ATI muxes. In the case of H.264, you dont need these, so its not a problem there are none listed.

Quote:I have PowerDVD8 installed and recordings playback fine in that.
PowerDVD doesnt install any muxes, so this is why the Cyberlink one isnt listed. As you've mentioned, it can play .ts files though.

Quote:Windows Media player won't playback at all - It simply freezes on the first frame and doesn't progress. If I select TS Mux I can playback in GBPVR with mixed results - TV1,2 and C4 play well, keep sync but after a while we find we have trouble skipping backward and forward - The short skips with the FFWD and RWD buttons do odd things like going forward instead of backward and the 1 minute back (I have the skip buttons set to 60 seconds) doesn't work, if I hold it down it will start skipping back 1 second at a time. Full TS seems to behave the same.
WMP shouldnt be able to play this type of file - it doesnt understand this format without having 3rd party filters designed for this purpose (though none are available that work with out audio format).

Are you running the current 1.2.13? Its better at keeping things in sync, and skipping etc, when compared to previous release. Its definitely not perfect though, and still a bit of a work in progress. Also make sure you have applied these patches:

http://forums.gbpvr.com/showpost.php?p=2...ostcount=7
http://forums.gbpvr.com/showpost.php?p=2...stcount=90

Quote:Full TS seems to behave the same.
Dont bother using the Full TS option. Its just for producing debug files for me.

Quote:Is the MUX used for Mux and DeMux? I thought from the documentation that the MUX related to recordings?
Muxes filters are only used at recording time, combining multiple streams into a format that can be written to disk.

A "demux" is used during playback, to break a file into multiple streams that can be passed to the individual decoders.

Quote:I'm using the Monogram AAC Decoder version 0.9.5.0 and the GBPVR TS Reader.

I'm also having problems with the Audio being a little out on TV3 recordings - when I was recording using the same Nova-T-500 in a different (Old P4 1.6) in the Garage they played back fine in the Lounge -does this indicate its the Mux I'm using to record?

Where do I start to tweak this! I'm using a 9600GT with 512mb and recordings play with very low CPU.
I'm not really sure. The machine shouldnt really have had any effect on the recording.
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2008-07-10, 08:46 AM
Ok - thanks for that Sub - thats bought me up to speed on most of this - I am on 1.2.13 - I've pub in the patches and they haven't seemed to make any difference. do I need to de-register and re-register the .ax files?

If the TS Mux is recommended - do I need a different DeMux? Is TS Mux used for Demux too?
[SIZE="1"]Matt Beechey
Intel i5-4440, 4096mb DDR3 Ram, Windows 7 Pro
2 x Hauppauge Nova-T 500 (2 out of 4 of these I've bought works! Great QC Hauppauge!)
1 x Hauppauge hvr-2200 and 1 x Hauppauge Colossus
500gb Seagate for O/S
2 x 500GB SATA3 WD Black in a Windows Stripe for recordings
All hidden in the garage with an Intel i5 NUC and a logitech Harmony one remote in the lounge for playback.
Panasonic 65" 2013 GT Series 3D plasma

----------------------------
New Zealand - Go Crusaders![/SIZE]
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2008-07-11, 06:50 AM
mobiusnz Wrote:TV1,2 and C4 play well, keep sync but after a while we find we have trouble skipping backward and forward - The short skips with the FFWD and RWD buttons do odd things like going forward instead of backward and the 1 minute back
I have the same problem, but a new new one has cropped up recently too. When I pause for more then a few seconds, it doesn't start playing when I press play. I have to either skip or pause-play to get it to start. I've been thinking about auto-converting everything to DivX (which play fine).
mobiusnz Wrote:I'm also having problems with the Audio being a little out on TV3 recordings
Most my sync issues disappeared when I got hardware acceleration working. However, when it does get out of sync periodically, I find a skip backwards (I'm set to 10 seconds) fixes it, as long as it doesn't skip randomly!

mobiusnz Wrote:Where do I start to tweak this! I'm using a 9600GT with 512mb and recordings play with very low CPU.
Is the CPU low while playing in GBPVR, or just PDVD8? Remember, if you are using the PDVD8 codec, you need to edit the registry to ensure hardware acceleration is enabled for PVRX2.exe. See this thread.[/QUOTE]
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