Visual Studio.Net 2003

[darrin75]

Does anybody know where i can get this for a good price, and what version is pretty good. There are so many upgrade cd's out there and different versions, i am afraid of buying the wrong thing. Also i am currently using sharp develop which is pretty good and free, but is sharp develop limited, and also is visual studio.net alot easier and have alot more helpful tools. Just need some advice here.

[jrockintuitive]

I can't help with version and price... I use vs.net 03 enterprise edition.
But I think the two most important features in intellisense (hit the "." and a list of options show), and live editing (be able to move the cursor while in debug mode). The fact that vs.net 03 does not let you alter your code while in debug mode is utter garbage. I think in vs.net 05 you can alter your code in debug mode only in vb... gee, thanks - I thought c# was your prime language for .net.

If sharp develop does not have intellisence and you can not perform live edits, I would drop it. That amount of time you will save with these two features are worth the price. If sharp develop has those two features, then I would take a look at the features of vs.net and determine if it is worth the price.

[AndyScrase]

MS are now releasing so called "express editions" of a lot of their dev products for free.

Visual C# express beta is downloadable from
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/vc...fault.aspx

[jasonf]

Beware, though Darrin75, that the Visual Studio 2005 (the link goes to a beta build) is a .NET 2.0 environment, and won't work for creating .NET 1.1 assemblies.

[KingArgyle]

...and currently GBPVR doesn't work with a .NET 2.0 environment.

[sjwaste]

Quote[/b] (darrin75 @ Mar. 20 2005,22:09)]Does anybody know where i can get this for a good price, and what version is pretty good. There are so many upgrade cd's out there and different versions, i am afraid of buying the wrong thing. Also i am currently using sharp develop which is pretty good and free, but is sharp develop limited, and also is visual studio.net alot easier and have alot more helpful tools. Just need some advice here.

I've gotta say, for most purposes, SharpDevelop has really impressed me. Unless you're finding something you just CAN'T do in #Develop thats possible in VS .NET, I'd stick with the free solution. The only thing I've really found is that SharpDevelop doesn't automatically create code stubs for the methods and properties in an interface when you implement it. (As an aside, if I'm wrong, can someone tell me how I'd accomplish this?)

It's using the microsoft-supplied .NET compiler, so its not like you're going to run into compiler bugs that nobody else is seeing. It's more about the UI, and I happen to think it's pretty good. If you're comfortable with it, you should be able to use it for quite a bit. I've installed it on two machines here at home and one at work and used it to learn C#, and I happen to really like it.

[jasonf]

I agree that it's coming along as an IDE.  But it still feels too clunky for me to spend any quality time using it.

Quote[/b] ]The only thing I've really found is that SharpDevelop doesn't automatically create code stubs for the methods and properties in an interface when you implement it.  (As an aside, if I'm wrong, can someone tell me how I'd accomplish this?)  

I found a way to do this.  From another post of mine:

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">I pulled out Sharp Develop (v1.0.3) again to take a look at it.  It does indeed have a code completion feature that would be most useful for generating your code stub.

After implementing an interface, position the cursor within the class's code block, and then press ALT+Insert.  The code completion window will appear.  Select Implement Interfaces, and then check the interface that you want to implement.  Press Enter, and SharpDevelop will write the code for you.

I noticed, though, that it didn't catch the "out" parameter of the render() method (it wrote the stub as a "ref").  To correct this, just change "ref" to "out", and then be sure to set the variable to "false" inside of the method.[/QUOTE]

[sjwaste]

I agree that it's coming along as an IDE. But it still feels too clunky for me to spend any quality time using it.

I'll concede that it's not a professional replacement for something like VS, but for someone like me who's not using it professionally, and generally just to develop my own projects, I think its great. If anything, it allows a hobbyist to work on a project without dropping a lot of cash on VS.

I found a way to do this. From another post of mine:

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">I pulled out Sharp Develop (v1.0.3) again to take a look at it. It does indeed have a code completion feature that would be most useful for generating your code stub.

After implementing an interface, position the cursor within the class's code block, and then press ALT+Insert. The code completion window will appear. Select Implement Interfaces, and then check the interface that you want to implement. Press Enter, and SharpDevelop will write the code for you.

I noticed, though, that it didn't catch the "out" parameter of the render() method (it wrote the stub as a "ref"). To correct this, just change "ref" to "out", and then be sure to set the variable to "false" inside of the method.

[/QUOTE]

Wow, awesome, I didn't know it had this. Thanks for the tip!

[AndyScrase]

I did check out (on various blogs) using VS2005 with the 1.1 framework, and it looks like a world of pain. if you want to use that then you'll have to wait for .NEt2.0 support for GBPVR, which I imagine is not a high priority for Sub