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setting up satellite correctly?
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2007-07-24, 08:06 PM
sub Wrote:While you're getting your head around how the how the satellite setup works, you may find it easier to temporarily try it with a new capture source on an empty database. Backup original database first though.

Once you've got your head around it, it'll probably make more sense to you.
Can you please explain how I can save my old one, empty it all out, then be able to reload my oldconfigs? I spent alot of time setting up the hd one correctly, so I'd prefer not to have to redo it.
Quote:You shouldnt have a 'channel 3'. Instead the TV Guide should list all of the channels available via that capture source. You might have 500 channels - they'll all be listed.

I'm somewhat confused what you mean by this. Currently it's listing all thecable channels, and the HD channels from the other tuner. Doesnt show the custom channel 3 that i added for the third satellite source.

Quote:When the app needs to use that capture source to watch or record any of those channels, it'll switch the tuner to channel 3, and send the appropriate channel number out of the ir blaster.

GB-PVR does not let the user manually switch between tuners. It manages this to make sure it has tuners available for recording etc. It keeps a list of which tuners can record which channels, and allocates them out based on a set of rules.

Does the Hauppauge remote work in any software? Assuming the remote is working, then all you should have to do to get it working with GB-PVR is click the 'fix Hauppauge remote settings' button in the config app, and restart the Hauppauge remote software.

When it comes to the blaster, you need to make sure you have blastcfg and your capture source configured as I described earlier in the thread. The app will automatically tell the blaster to change to specific channel when it needs to for recording or live tv.

I'll go ahead and install all the hauppauge software and try it with their software, and report back in a few min.
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2007-07-24, 08:36 PM
csmaster2005 Wrote:
sub Wrote:While you're getting your head around how the how the satellite setup works, you may find it easier to temporarily try it with a new capture source on an empty database. Backup original database first though.

Once you've got your head around it, it'll probably make more sense to you.
Can you please explain how I can save my old one, empty it all out, then be able to reload my oldconfigs? I spent alot of time setting up the hd one correctly, so I'd prefer not to have to redo it.
To try it out on an empty database, do the following:

1) rename gbpvr.db3 to something else (e.g. gbpvr.db3.old)
2) take a copy of empty.db3 and rename it gbpvr.db3.

Now when you start the config app you'll find no capture source defined. Create your satellite capture source and test it out in GB-PVR, getting familiar with what is happening without your other capture sources confusing matters.

When you you understand how its working then you can you copy your gbpvr.db3.old back to gbpvr.db3, and continue setting things up with your other capture sources present.


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Quote:You shouldnt have a 'channel 3'. Instead the TV Guide should list all of the channels available via that capture source. You might have 500 channels - they'll all be listed.

I'm somewhat confused what you mean by this. Currently it's listing all thecable channels, and the HD channels from the other tuner. Doesnt show the custom channel 3 that i added for the third satellite source.
Ok, let me give an example. Imagine I have a empty database. I have set top satellite receiver which provides me 70 channels, and is connected to a PVR150 in my PC via a coax cable on CH3.

I create a capture source. I set the capture source to use the PVR150. I set the recording source to the 'fixed channel, external tuner' option. I enter the constant channel number as '3'. I set the EPG source to an xmltv file that contains the listings for my 70 channels (or zap2it account which has the 70 channels), then hit the 'update epg' button. This will pull in the listings, and I should see my 70 channels listed in my capture source. Next to each of these channels should be the channel number used by my set top box for that channel.

I want to use my PVR150 IR Blaster to control the set top box, so set the channel changer to the '.exe channel changer' option, and point it at haupblast.exe.

I 'ok' out of the config app, then start GB-PVR and click on the 'TV Guide' menu option. I should see my 70 channels listed. When I click the watch button one of these, for example channel 52, then my IR Blaster will send the digits '5' and '2' to the set top box.

I dont ever see a 'channel 3' in the app's user interface. That is just a number used behind the scenes when tuner is initialised.
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2007-07-24, 09:12 PM
ok thanks, making some progress. First, the remote is working now. I guess I had to push it harder into the slot on the card for the IR port, I thought it was all the way in, but I was wrong.

Also, I got the satellite showing by manually adding a channel 3. I was trying to have the reciever be the 'master'.

Anyways, now time to try to setup an xmltv feed or what not...
For the blaster config, I couldnt find my receiver in the list. It's a rex-i reciever, and I dont even think it has a make, or what not.

Not sure how to go from here. It's a receiver we use to get international channels. so I dont even know if there is an xmltv feed or what not for it. I guess I'm stuck right now, because a) i dont even know how to set up the blaster to know my receiver, and b) I dont even know how to get a proper feed.

Anymore tips would be great.
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2007-07-24, 09:19 PM
csmaster2005 Wrote:Also, I got the satellite showing by manually adding a channel 3. I was trying to have the reciever be the 'master'.
As described above, you should have had to manually create channel.
Quote:a) i dont even know how to set up the blaster to know my receiver
Hauppauge blastcfg utility

Quote:and b) I dont even know how to get a proper feed.
I cant help you with that one, but without real channel names and numbers GB-PVR will not attempt to use your IR Blaster.
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2007-07-24, 09:27 PM
sub Wrote:As described above, you should have had to manually create channel.
Ya I thought selecting it in the other menu added it, I was wrong though.

Quote:Hauppauge blastcfg utility

Ya like I said, my receiver wasnt listed (atleast I dont think it was)

Quote:I cant help you with that one, but without real channel names and numbers GB-PVR will not attempt to use your IR Blaster.
So I'll have too maually change the channels via the receiver basically, and use that channel 3 for what I want correct?

Also, the 1600 has 2 inputs, I'm somewhat confused on what each is. Since I am probally going to end up having to use channel 3 and change from my receiver etc, is there anyway I can have the cable form the wall AND the receiver both hooked up at the same time so I will not need a switch of some sort?

Also I have an extra twinpauge card that I was using as a tuner for hdtv. I could switch things around with that too if needed.
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2007-07-24, 09:37 PM
csmaster2005 Wrote:So I'll have too maually change the channels via the receiver basically, and use that channel 3 for what I want correct?
I havnt used it myself, but I seen some mentions of newer version of blastcfg being able to learn signals of your STB remote. This should get you past this.

Quote:Also, the 1600 has 2 inputs, I'm somewhat confused on what each is. Since I am probally going to end up having to use channel 3 and change from my receiver etc, is there anyway I can have the cable form the wall AND the receiver both hooked up at the same time so I will not need a switch of some sort?
No, not via coax. You can probably have your STB connected via svideo/composite while cable from the wall is connected to the tuner. You wont be able to use them both at the same time (hardware or app wont allow it), but at least you wont have add any switch.
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2007-07-24, 09:54 PM
when you said have the stb connected via svideo/composite, did you mean straight into the TV? That wont help because I wanted to be able to record from that box via the channel 3 thing, so I'd need it to go into the computer.

I dont really need to use both at same time, just wanted to not have to deal with switching things and what not.

I'll look into the newer blastcfg features.

Also, do I still need my other tuner that I was using for hd OTA, or can I just set it up to use the other hauppauge input, and connect the antenna into that, and return that tuner?

Also, do you know a good article to distinguish betwee the 2 types of input? (digital vs analog or whatever). I'm still confused about them, and why 1 needs to be encoded and other doesnt etc.
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2007-07-24, 09:55 PM
No, I meant the STB connected to the HVR1600 via svideo/composite.

Everything is set up the same as described earlier in this thread, except instead of selecting 'fixed channel, external tuner' you select the 'svideo' or 'composite' recording source.
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2007-07-24, 10:36 PM
I just realized the receiver doesnt have s-video out lol.


Also, do I still need my other tuner that I was using for hd OTA, or can I just set it up to use the other hauppauge input, and connect the antenna into that, and return that tuner?

Also, do you know a good article to distinguish betwee the 2 types of input? (digital vs analog or whatever). I'm still confused about them, and why 1 needs to be encoded and other doesnt etc.
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2007-07-24, 10:39 PM
csmaster2005 Wrote:I just realized the receiver doesnt have s-video out lol.
Composite?

Quote:Also, do I still need my other tuner that I was using for hd OTA, or can I just set it up to use the other hauppauge input, and connect the antenna into that, and return that tuner?
To be honest, I'm not that familiar with the HVR1600, so I'm not sure exactly which connectors it has, where they're routed to. Someone else might be able to answer your question though.

Quote:Also, do you know a good article to distinguish betwee the 2 types of input? (digital vs analog or whatever).
No I dont.
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