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HVR2200 and bad analogue recordings

 
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HVR2200 and bad analogue recordings
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2008-09-18, 06:36 AM
time_lord Wrote:BTW, this issue should be linked against http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php?t=37406
Sorry, but I'm 100% sure these are not related.
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2008-09-18, 10:52 AM
Progress Report.

Removed the reg settings and recorded a 1 hr show and a 30 min one. The 30 min one was fine but the hour one showed as 24 min in GBPVR and Windows Movie Maker but was fine in WMP11 and VideoRedo Plus. Weird.

Added the reg settings back and recorded two hour shows. Both look fine.

Will keep testing to see whether I can get it to mess up again with the reg settings in place.
C2Duo E8400, 4GB, GE8600GT, PCH A-100, HVR2200, NPVR 1.5.31, Win 7 x64.
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2008-09-18, 11:21 AM
sub Wrote:If the transport stream is broken in any way, this is likely a signal reception problem. Its more likely that your .ts problems are playback issues rather than recording issues.
I recorded Family Guy from 7-7:30 tonight, and from halfway thru the playback got so choppy it was unwatchable... and it was raining. Also recorded FG from 7:30 to 8, and the playback was absolutely fine (and the rain had stopped).
Certainly a bad signal is a likely candidate... I've raised this before (and hence also why I'd voted for having a signal strength/quality meter on the ctrl-O option). But without some indicator, I'm not sure.
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2008-09-18, 11:34 AM
sub Wrote:Sorry, but I'm 100% sure these are not related.
Ok... just that I'm having some .ts recordings that are fine, some total crap. And I am not changing playback options in between. So these ones that are crap... maybe yes it is a broken transport stream and I'll concede that with the crap one from earlier tonight, the FF/RW was ok. But I would have assumed something in the TS would be responsible for the FF/RW not working correctly, yes?
One thing I forgot to mention about that - when the playback got really bad and the picture had frozen for several seconds, my entire system locked up. Reset button was the only thing that worked.
I'd also recently changed to vmr9 fullscreen exclusive - the only thing to playback reasonably smoothly (other than these problem recordings), but there are problems with that too. (Am just about to add to that other thread on that topic.)
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2008-09-18, 11:47 AM
You might want to pass a ts file through one of these utilities to see if it fixes something broken in the stream itself.

http://forums.gbpvr.com/showpost.php...18&postcount=9

If anyone does want to pass an analog recording to sub for Hauppauge there are free upload sites like megaupload that can help too.

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2008-09-19, 01:54 AM
mvallevand Wrote:You might want to pass a ts file through one of these utilities to see if it fixes something broken in the stream itself.

http://forums.gbpvr.com/showpost.php...18&postcount=9
Link appears broken...

Actually I did try out TS-doctor last night (against the 'good' FG recording). The summary at the end said it had fixed 52 errors (not that any were noticeable during playback) but the test was academic anyway because TS-doctor didn't retain the audio stream (I've already heard back from the TS-doctor author and he's not yet sure why the audio stream wasn't retained).
When I tried to load the choppy FG recording, TS-doctor reported during a PMT scan:
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Found 2 different PMTs
WARNING: More than 1 PMT found, selecting first one
Selecting PMT with PID $012D at position 317
CRC error!
PMT invalid!

Does this help at all... how does gbpvr handle it because the recording is playable in parts....
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2008-09-19, 02:11 AM
time_lord Wrote:When I tried to load the choppy FG recording, TS-doctor reported during a PMT scan:
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Found 2 different PMTs
WARNING: More than 1 PMT found, selecting first one
Selecting PMT with PID $012D at position 317
CRC error!
PMT invalid!

Does this help at all... how does gbpvr handle it because the recording is playable in parts....
Are you able to make the recording available to me on a site like megaupload? If so, I'll download the file and take a look.
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2008-09-19, 02:54 AM
sub Wrote:Are you able to make the recording available to me on a site like megaupload? If so, I'll download the file and take a look.
Y I'll try to do it tonight.
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2008-09-21, 09:31 PM
After a swag of tests I have determined that the registry settings don't prevent the timeline problem - no surprise there. It shows up pretty erratically at around 25 percent of recordings.

GBPVR and Windows Movie Maker show the same error but Video Redo is consistently correct. WMP is usually correct as well.

sub, I will PM you with a megaload 9m 41s clip.
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2008-09-23, 12:22 PM
sub Wrote:Are you able to make the recording available to me on a site like megaupload? If so, I'll download the file and take a look.
Hi Sub, sorry for the delay. I have the first few seconds of the recording (trimmed with the cutter that comes with TS-Doctor) - it's the tail-end of 'punked' just before Family Guy started. It contains the PMT error that TS-Doctor complains about... please let me know if it's useful or not.

(BTW, sorry I uploaded to rabidshare rather than megaupload... let me know if you need it on megaupload.) This is only 13MB:
http://rapidshare.com/files/147680746/Al...rt.ts.html

Another thing to report - with the original recording I clipped 10-20 seconds out of the middle. Tried to play it back and after a jerky few seconds of playback it stopped... tried to kill pvrx2 but wasn't responding to window-close clicks. When I tried to kill it with Task Manager my system hung and after a few seconds it blue-screened (reporting module watchdog.sys).
I guess you cannot do much about it if it's dodgy kernel-mode drivers, but is there anything you can do on playback to prevent pvrx2 sending dodgy TS data to drivers (when that data will ultimately make them blow up)?
Shall I upload this second recording also?

Thanks, Phil
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