New ATI 785g [HD4200 onboard]

[hoborg]

I find with a 780G and an ATI 3200 that I can view 1080p without difficulty and with CPU use around 30-40% for HD, about half that with SD. I'm using ffdshow throughout.

Can i ask why are you do not use DXVA decoders?

[BigMoose]

I didn't think ffdshow did hw acel, certainly not for H264. For mine using cyberlink for 1080i HD H264 I get around 5% CPU usage.

[liteswap]

ffdshow doesn't do hardware acceleration but it seems to work. Why don't I use DXVA? Not sure really! It's a case of what's not broken, why try to fix? That said, getting CPU down would be good. Maybe I should try the GBPVR codec set...

[Pob]

I didn't think ffdshow did hw acel, certainly not for H264. For mine using cyberlink for 1080i HD H264 I get around 5% CPU usage.

BigMoose can you please let me know how you got Cyberlink working with hardware acceleration in GBPVR - isn't some tinkering needed in the registry?

I just got a Blue-Ray drive that came with PDVD7.3. As per my last experiment with Cyberlink, it A)Promotes itself to the default codec B) Uninstalls Purevideo audio - without even asking!
Now this would not be a problem if you could use all the PDVD features in GBPVR, but you can't - settings made in the config screen are ignored (for example audio is just stereo, no surround sound. It took me hours to get everything working again, but if GBPVR could use the extended features of PDVD (surround sound, eagle vision, hard acceleration etc) then maybe I could use it instead of my current messy-but-works-well mixture of decoders?

At present decoders are:
H264 TS - CoreAVC
H264 MKV - PDVD 7.3 (since installing PDVD, not by choice!)
Mpeg2 video - Nvidia Purevideo
Xvid/DivX video - ffdshow

Mpeg2 audio - Purevideo for Prologic surround sound
Mp3 - ffdshow for prologic surround sound from Divx/Xvid files
AC3 - Purevideo for proper DTS surround sound

[hoborg]

BigMoose can you please let me know how you got Cyberlink working with hardware acceleration in GBPVR - isn't some tinkering needed in the registry?

I just got a Blue-Ray drive that came with PDVD7.3. As per my last experiment with Cyberlink, it A)Promotes itself to the default codec B) Uninstalls Purevideo audio - without even asking!
Now this would not be a problem if you could use all the PDVD features in GBPVR, but you can't - settings made in the config screen are ignored (for example audio is just stereo, no surround sound. It took me hours to get everything working again, but if GBPVR could use the extended features of PDVD (surround sound, eagle vision, hard acceleration etc) then maybe I could use it instead of my current messy-but-works-well mixture of decoders?

At present decoders are:
H264 TS - CoreAVC
H264 MKV - PDVD 7.3 (since installing PDVD, not by choice!)
Mpeg2 video - Nvidia Purevideo
Xvid/DivX video - ffdshow

Mpeg2 audio - Purevideo for Prologic surround sound
Mp3 - ffdshow for prologic surround sound from Divx/Xvid files
AC3 - Purevideo for proper DTS surround sound

You didnt read? SAF is based on PDVD9 decoders

[BigMoose]

I've never actually tried SAF as for Bluray playback the Haali splitter is no good. You need to install the MPC mpeg (gabest) splitter for bluray playback and the haali splitter for mkv playback. The reason is that (last time I tried) Haali doesn't support HD audio which MPC (gabest) does, passes them to ffdshow which can then convert to conventional AC3/DTS for my spdif.

I digress as the original question was cyberlink - I've never had any problems with it and GBPVR providing hw accel however I could never get the audio decoder to do what I want over spdif (not that I care cause there are many others that do play nicely - AC3Filter, MPA audio decoder, ffdshow - will all pass AC3/DTS/PCM over spdif, although I have problems with some DVDs and AC3 with ffdshow with libavc - but cant change to the other ffdshow decoder lib for AC3 or HD streams dont work, so again use of one of these decoders only isn't good enough. I have ffdshow for bluray HD audio playback and AC3Filer or MPA audio decoder for other GBPVR AC3/DTS/PCM usage)

I have read that the cyberlink changes in the config.exe dont save to pvrx2.exe usage and you need to hack the registery, but I've never had the problem as it defaults to DXVA for both PDVD8 and PDVD9 codecs. I also have a bluray drive that came with 7.3 and that worked. 7.3 doesn't support the Irish DTT H264 though so had to upgrade to 8 or 9. I found the "HD Pack 2.2" (google it) contains the PDVD8 and 9 decoders (along with a few others) and with the latest MPC containing both a Haali and (gabest) splitter I've been able to fanny about with the merits and just about get bluray disks, mkv files, HD live TV and GBPVR HD recordings to use the required combination of filters.

Is SAF flexible enough to let me do all this?

[hoborg]

I've never actually tried SAF as for Bluray playback the Haali splitter is no good. You need to install the MPC mpeg (gabest) splitter for bluray playback and the haali splitter for mkv playback. The reason is that (last time I tried) Haali doesn't support HD audio which MPC (gabest) does, passes them to ffdshow which can then convert to conventional AC3/DTS for my spdif.

I digress as the original question was cyberlink - I've never had any problems with it and GBPVR providing hw accel however I could never get the audio decoder to do what I want over spdif (not that I care cause there are many others that do play nicely - AC3Filter, MPA audio decoder, ffdshow - will all pass AC3/DTS/PCM over spdif, although I have problems with some DVDs and AC3 with ffdshow with libavc - but cant change to the other ffdshow decoder lib for AC3 or HD streams dont work, so again use of one of these decoders only isn't good enough. I have ffdshow for bluray HD audio playback and AC3Filer or MPA audio decoder for other GBPVR AC3/DTS/PCM usage)

I have read that the cyberlink changes in the config.exe dont save to pvrx2.exe usage and you need to hack the registery, but I've never had the problem as it defaults to DXVA for both PDVD8 and PDVD9 codecs. I also have a bluray drive that came with 7.3 and that worked. 7.3 doesn't support the Irish DTT H264 though so had to upgrade to 8 or 9. I found the "HD Pack 2.2" (google it) contains the PDVD8 and 9 decoders (along with a few others) and with the latest MPC containing both a Haali and (gabest) splitter I've been able to fanny about with the merits and just about get bluray disks, mkv files, HD live TV and GBPVR HD recordings to use the required combination of filters.

Is SAF flexible enough to let me do all this?

Basicaly - yes. SAF have Gabest MPEG-2 spitter too.
By "bluray playback" you mean m2ts files? You can change filename extension to select what splitter you prefer.
Only limitation that MKV format (and Haali splitter) have is not supported True HD audio format.
SAF will configure Cyberlink software automaticaly, so no need to configure anything, just install *unlocked* SAF and play.
Only you need to do is remove/uninstall all orher decoders/codecs packs, etc.
Latest SAF have passtrough support as well, using AC3 filter you will be able to passtrough all audio format (not only AC3/DTS), becouse AC3 filter is capable to encode PCM in to AC3 in realtime. So lets say you have audio in MP3, ffdshow audio decoder decode MP3 to PCM and AC3 filter encode PCM to AC3 and passtrough it.

Just try and see, if you have questions - ask. I am werry happy how SAF working now, and if you are on XP you should not have any problems at all.

[BigMoose]

I mean Bluray disk playback (with AnyDVD) - although ultimately that might be seen as .m2ts file playback once AnyDVD has done its thing...? I'm using Vista and EVR, is that not good for SAF?

[hoborg]

I mean Bluray disk playback (with AnyDVD) - although ultimately that might be seen as .m2ts file playback once AnyDVD has done its thing...? I'm using Vista and EVR, is that not good for SAF?

AnyDVD is "on the fly decrypter", how you suppose to play Blueray with this software?

Vista + EVR = No DVD navigation (higlighted buttons) when using DXVA, so only SW decoding needs to be used - just setup DVD playback to use FFDshow as Video decoder instead of Cyberlink.

[BigMoose]

I have DVD nagivation no problems with this setup (vista+EVR+DXVA) I also have working Bluray disk playback using Whurlston's Movie pluguin (and AnyDVD for the decrypting).