Skinning News

[Fatman_do]

That didn't do it.

Got me, I never used that.
I select my attachment from the attachment icon, and it drops it in place.
That is why you see "[ ATTACH ]1234[ /ATTACH ]" when my posts are quoted.

[Old Dog]

Got me, I never used that.
I select my attachment from the attachment icon, and it drops it in place.
That is why you see "[ ATTACH ]1234[ /ATTACH ]" when my posts are quoted.

I should have explained, I'm trying to reuse an attachment from another post.

Thanks,
Old Dog

[Fatman_do]

I should have explained, I'm trying to reuse an attachment from another post.

Thanks,
Old Dog

Never tried that, so I don't know.

Tried a text, got same results you did.

[reboot]

Here's another variation of what might work for sizes.
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Here's a truly ugly colour scheme.
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Here's X-Search with the date/time offscreen.
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(HTF does one get these pics to actually show, instead of links?!?!)
EDIT: Nevermind, I figured it out

[Old Dog]

I've seen a few posts recently where the author implies that with the new BaseSkin standardization scheme, skinners won't need to create skin.xml files for all the plug-ins.

Well, if the skinners don't create these files, who does?

Earlier in this thread I asked the question: In the standardized BaseSkin defined future, who is going to write the skin.xml files. While I did get a lot of response, I never did get a direct answer.

The correct answer is: The plug-in developer.

BTW, the developers seem to have some strong opinions regarding skinning...

speaking as a developer, the skin is one of the most annoying parts, i will only do the default skin myself. its just too annoying and takes too long to do any other skins (searching for graphics, making graphics, making icons etc).

I agree with reven, most plugin writers (incl myself) hate the skining part and Blue is the only skin they/I would support "out of the box"

Skinners will rewrite the skin.xml files.

We will probably end up with a more elegant skin (BlueMCE), a low info bandwith version (Flat Blue High Visibility), one for the MVP (ContourHC) and one to work around overscan (Plain Jane) and a bunch that are just plain creative (XMedia A thru Z).

Its good that the standardized BaseSkin is going to make things easier for skinners because there's going to be a lot of skinning going on!


P.S. Don't forget HD.

[Old Dog]

Here's another variation of what might work for sizes.
[ATTACHMENT NOT FOUND]

Here's a truly ugly colour scheme.
[ATTACHMENT NOT FOUND]

Here's X-Search with the date/time offscreen.
[ATTACHMENT NOT FOUND]



(HTF does one get these pics to actually show, instead of links?!?!)
EDIT: Nevermind, I figured it out

HTF did you get all those pics to actually show?

[sub]

Earlier in this thread I asked the question: In the standardized BaseSkin defined future, who is going to write the skin.xml files. While I did get a lot of response, I never did get a direct answer.

The correct answer is: The plug-in developer.

Correct, in the same way they have always been required to develop the default blue skin for their plugin.

BTW, the developers seem to have some strong opinions regarding skinning...

speaking as a developer, the skin is one of the most annoying parts, i will only do the default skin myself. its just too annoying and takes too long to do any other skins (searching for graphics, making graphics, making icons etc).

I agree with reven, most plugin writers (incl myself) hate the skining part and Blue is the only skin they/I would support "out of the box"

Yes, this this has been my understanding for a long time. I've never pushed for them to provide more than the default skin, otherwise I knew I would be asking too much.

Skinners will rewrite the skin.xml files.

Only if they want to. At least they will have a choice. Many skins dont change the layouts of these specific plugins - they may just want to change some colours, or fonts, or background, or the look of the buttons. Skinners are still welcome to rewrite it entirely if they want, but they will be making more work for themselves, including maintanence in future releases. Those that opted not to rewrite the skin.xml files will not have to perform that future maintenance.

We will probably end up with a more elegant skin (BlueMCE), a low info bandwith version (Flat Blue High Visibility), one for the MVP (ContourHC) and one to work around overscan (Plain Jane) and a bunch that are just plain creative (XMedia A thru Z).

Its good that the standardized BaseSkin is going to make things easier for skinners because there's going to be a lot of skinning going on!

P.S. Don't forget HD.

Cheer up buddy. How about some optimism for a change?

[Old Dog]

Reboot,

I restarted work on XSearch last night. I'll have an update this weekend.

Best Regards,
Old Dog

[Old Dog]

Correct, in the same way they have always been required to develop the default blue skin for their plugin.

Yes, this this has been my understanding for a long time. I've never pushed for them to provide more than the default skin, otherwise I knew I would be asking too much.

Only if they want to. At least they will have a choice. Many skins dont change the layouts of these specific plugins - they may just want to change some colours, or fonts, or background, or the look of the buttons. Skinners are still welcome to rewrite it entirely if they want, but they will be making more work for themselves, including maintanence in future releases. Those that opted not to rewrite the skin.xml files will not have to perform that future maintenance.

Cheer up buddy. How about some optimism for a change?

I actually believe that the changes you are making with respect to BaseSkin.xml are good and I intend to exploit the hell out of them.

There does seem to be a lot of hype implying that no one will need to edit skin.xml files. The intention of my post was to point out that the influences that have lead to our current skin diversity will continue to exist. There will still be a need for different sets of xml files.

Best Regards,
Old Dog

[sub]

There does seem to be a lot of hype implying that no one will need to edit skin.xml files.

I'm sure if you werent talking about it so much, we would have seen very little about it. Nearly all the posts about this have either been from you, or in response to a question from you, so count yourself as a main contributor why this has got so much 'air time'. I certainly wasnt trying to make a big deal over it.