Graph and TVPI external recorder beta

[carpeVideo]

Ok,

I think I got it working -

Here is a software Record dll that should save the graph to c:\lastSoftRecGraph.grf when it begins to record. You need both the software recorder and graph recorder DLLs in your plugin dir.


I don't use the software recorder so I haven't tested it!! But give it a go.

[carpeVideo]

Also posted graphRecorder 1.2 to the wiki - its a minor change that changes tuning timing if you use the external tuner exe for firewire

[tesamu]

Hi.

Thanks a lot. This great plugin solved all my problems with the HVR-3000.

[topperdude]

That's neat! I will test it out and report back!

Thanks much for your efforts,
-Topper

[topperdude]

Hey CV - Looks like you nailed it!

I've attached the old graph (where I couldn't get the audio working) and new graph generated by your most recent version of SoftwareRecorder.dll.

Interestingly, the key differences seem to be:
a) In the old graph, the "video tuner out" pin on the audio crossbar is NOT connected to the "video tuner in" pin on the video crossbar. How it still played back video fine is a bit of a mystery to me.
b) In the old graph, there's no 'Smart Tee' filter between the audio capture device and the Audio Encoder. Not sure what a 'Smart Tee' does, but I wonder if that may have been the missing component for not getting audio in my previous attempt at building the graph?

Thoughts?

Thanks and again - great job on this tool,
-Topper

[psicotron3]

Now that I can find the software recorder graph it became really easy to use your plugin.

My turner doesn´t show any option to select the colorspace and resolution, but somehow software recorder managed to set it just the way I specify in the profile. What surprised me is that the software recorder retained those settings, I just created one graph for each resolution and with graphedit I was able to set the bitrates of the ati mpeg encoder. Worked really great.

The preview is working here to, but for it I started lifetv preview and copied the lastgraph gbpvr generated. The problem I get is about audio, if I render the audio it gets out of sync, so to use preview I must render only the video and unmute the "aux in" on windows mixer.

[carpeVideo]

topper - I am not sure what the smart tee does - I know the tees are supposed to copy the stream to 2 spots but what the smart part is beyond me :0) but if you get it to work don't ask why.

psi - I have the same issue with live, the odd thing is its the sound thats late not the video otherwise its ez to put in a delay on sound with AC filter.

For some filters the graph saves the setting and some it does not so if you change it in another program it may reflect those , you ATI settings could end up the same across graphs (just need to check to see what happens) I have some code that given time I might add that will allow more settings directly in the recorder as well but haven't gotten there yet,

What I like is the ability to set up the graph in graphEdit and muck with the settings and hit play, then check CPU use allowing you to tune the graph for performance and quality.

CV

[psicotron3]

topper - I am not sure what the smart tee does - I know the tees are supposed to copy the stream to 2 spots but what the smart part is beyond me :0) but if you get it to work don't ask why.

Mine worked with and without the smart tree. It doesn´t seen to be necessary here. Maybe it have some config inside that justify why normann added it to the softwarecorder.

psi - I have the same issue with live, the odd thing is its the sound thats late not the video otherwise its ez to put in a delay on sound with AC filter.

I have the same issue with software recorder when I choose "audio must be rendered" checkbox. For me excluding the audio from preview graph worked fine, since my capture card outputs the audio directly to a "aux in" the only problem is that I have to unmute the "aux in" output on windows mixer when I start preview and mute it again after I´m done.

Since you already added the code to force the "input", can you also make something to mute/unmute a selected output? That´s what software recorder does. Every time it starts a "non preview" graph it mutes the selected "preview audio output".

For some filters the graph saves the setting and some it does not so if you change it in another program it may reflect those , you ATI settings could end up the same across graphs (just need to check to see what happens) I have some code that given time I might add that will allow more settings directly in the recorder as well but haven't gotten there yet,

I already did the tests, the graph saved EVERY setting in ATI MPEG VIDEO ENCODER, ATI MPEG AUDIO ENCODER and the ATI MUXER. I made 3 graphs, changed a lot between then and checked the results! That´s the main reason for using your plugin.

It´s worderfull, now I can make a fully DVD compliant MPEG with varios quality profiles!!! I made a fullD1 graph (720x480 4500 CBR) for high quality; a halfd1 graph (352x480 2500 CBR) for medium quality and a sif graph (352x240 1850 CBR) for low quality. All working tested and re-tested.

As I said I just needed the Sofware Recorder graphs, because they set and somehow saved and retained the diferent resolutions and colorspaces for each graph. The bitrates, compression and mux settings were done by tweaking ATI filters inside the graph.

What I like is the ability to set up the graph in graphEdit and muck with the settings and hit play, then check CPU use allowing you to tune the graph for performance and quality.

I already found that too. By the way, if I select custom1 or custom2 quality inside GBPVR, what graph will be used? I´m asking too much, but can we have a option to select a graph for these too?

Thanks.

[carpeVideo]

I'll take a look the custom 1,2 shouldn't be hard - the mixer might not be, there is no output analog to IAMAudioInput mixer in the directShow library, (what was microsoft thinking)

[topperdude]

CV,

It appears GBPVR is not to load the softwarerecorder or graphrecorder plugins.

I installed the drivers for HVR-1600 and was using that with the graphrecorder just fine till couple days ago. See here for additional details. I did as sub suggested in that thread (to fix the issue re. SQLDatabase file locked error) and am able to use GBPVR with HVR1600 just fine.

So I tried adding the softwarerecorder/graphrecorder plugins back. GBPVR Config gives no error when I add a source for these plugins, but when I close and then restart Config to configure the graphrecorder plugin capture source, it is not listed in the capture source tab.

I went through the logs and looks like the software recorder/graph recorder is not able to initialize properly - could it be some missing (XML?) file from the error message?. Could that be the reason Config does not list it, even though the plugin entry may be present in the SQLLite database? I wonder if something got deleted/corrupted when I turned off the computer when it was non-responsive for a long time (as described in the post linked above)? Any suggestion on how to fix this? I've attached the logs.

BTW, I can still run the lastGraph saved by your tool from within GraphEdit to playback using the ATI card, if that helps any.

Thanks,
-Topper