Graph and TVPI external recorder beta

[cracksloth]

i have created the proper graphs for preview and recording. both seem to be working fine. but when i attempt to timeshift (click pause), the screen simply goes black. is the "preview to timeshift" graph supposed to simultaneously terminate with a renderer and gbpvrwriter? does anyone have any tips or examples they would like to share? i presumed that i could simply use the same graph i use for recording but it isn't exactly working out. any help would be really appreciated!

btw, the concept for this recording plugin is the smartest method i have ever seen. it is completely flexible and customizable. you rock!

cs

[carpeVideo]

I have had that happen before as well on live preview - basically it is paused but you can't see anything. Try hitting play again and see what happens it usually starts playing again and things are fine from there. Its just the initial pause that acts a little wacky.

There isn't much I can do since with live preview mode the graph is passed back to GBPVR and it is controlled directly from there.

I generally start with timeshifting already on (set don't use live preview when possible in the config) which seems to solve the issue. (well ok it doesn't solve it but it doesn't happen)

Let me know if that isn't the case and I can take a look and see if there is anything else that can be done.

As to the preview to timeshift graph it doesn't simultaneously need a filewriter and render. it should end with a filewrite. In fact with the live preview I pull the renderer off before passing it to GBPVR - its just easier with a render to know where the right pins are that GBPVR needs.

[cracksloth]

well, unfortunately, that didn't seem to work. gbpvr and pvrx2 both lockup. gbpvr is nice enough to tell me that "timeshifting is loading" but it never does. would it be possible that there are certain types of streams that gbpvr does not like to timeshift with? i have not really played with the encoding settings much. i'm currently capturing NTSC, 640x480, YUY2, 30 fps using the ati avivo codecs. i've tried simple mpeg2 presets for low and high quality while cropping the overscan. anyone have problems with similar settings?

i have attached a pic of the graph i am using. i also included GBPVR.exe.log and pvrx2.exe.log but they do not seem to be very helpful. these were created while attempting to watch live tv with "live preview mode" disabled.

i remember once recording a show and then setting it to play from the guide but even this method is crashing on me now. perhaps i am missing something simple? any ideas? is there any additional info i can provide?

[carpeVideo]

well, unfortunately, that didn't seem to work. gbpvr and pvrx2 both lockup. gbpvr is nice enough to tell me that

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I remember once recording a show and then setting it to play from the guide but even this method is crashing on me now. perhaps i am missing something simple? any ideas? is there any additional info i can provide?

It looks like you are using a very old version, not sure where it came from - update to the latest first, see if that works and the post your logs and the graph. Also I see your preview graph is the same as the others - it needs to be different and end in a renderer while the rest need to end in the filewriter

CV

[cracksloth]

i'm pretty sure that i'm running 1.7 - that is the latest right? i will redownload and overwrite. as for the preview, i know you are right. i was just playing around with settings to see if graphrecorder would chop off the diskwriter when importing the graph for preview mode. no worries - i understand how it's supposed to work... well, i think so anyway. i didn't think the preview graph would be loaded if i disabled the "live preview mode". is there a problem using the same GRF file for all *recorder* quality settings (low, med, high, timeshift)? right now, i'm just updating a single GRF file right now for troubleshooting reasons. could this create problems?

[carpeVideo]

The latest version has several tabs for graphs (the picture config only had 1) and likely says v 1.6 ( I think forgot to update the text but there definitely will be a version #). It also does not have the recorder helper which you must be using. It should be the only file on the Wiki so I am confused where your version came from.

You can use the same graph for all the qualities its only the preview graph that needs to be different if you actually use live preview (you mentioned you don't so you are right about that)

The easy test for recording is to simply run the graph in graph edit - if it creates a playable file then things should work in GBPVR. For testing you can render and save at the same time if you want. If you are recording firewire its helpful to watch a rendered graph and then slowly walk through the channels on your STB with your remote to see which channels are unencrypted.

Finally, its possible that the graph you write may not be playable without the right mux /decoder combo in GBPVR. So while it renders and writes a file you still can't see anything while timeshifting. I should have thought of that earlier when you mentioned you can see live preview but not timeshifted material.

So for example I use the avivo muxer in the graph and mvp decoder in GBPVR. You can check this by writing a test file with graphedt. Then viewing it in say VLC (which almost always works), then trying to watch the file from GBPVR - if it doesnt play you may need to use a different mux or decoder.

[cracksloth]

i discovered why you thought i was running an old version of graphrecorder! i sent you the wrong zip. that zip was an attachment someone else has sent a long time ago. it just happened to be on my desktop with a similar name and i have an itchy mouse finger. oops! attached is my real log and graph.

so to recap, i cannot enter timeshift mode. the program simply stalls and becomes unresponsive. recording works. preview works.

ignore my comment about no longer being able to record a program and immediately begin playing it (it still works just fine as a workaround for timeshifting). it turns out that i had selected an encoder configuration that gbpvr didn't like (i was testing the files created in graphedit using vlc which does not have the same codec restrictions). can anyone give me an encoder configurations known to work well with gbpvr timeshifting using graphrecorder?

thanks a lot for the help btw!

-cs

EDIT: looks like we were posting at the same time! so, yes, my avivo encoding settings were not being properly decoded by the intervideo decoder. i have switched to the mpv decoder but it still has not fixed timeshifting. what avivo encoding settings do you use?

[carpeVideo]

Can you post the recordingservice log as well - I can't see gbpvr or pvrx2 entering into timeshifting mode at all.

And to be clear the issue is that if you are in live preview and hit pause (to enter into live preview the program hangs or if you have live preview unchecked and you try to watch a channel (directly in timeshift) it hangs

CV

[cracksloth]

of course, here it is. still can't figure it out on my end.

yes, both ways to enter timeshift mode will hang gbpvr:
1) live preview on: pressing pause
2) live preview off: attempting to watch a channel

[carpeVideo]

Ok - two more requests - can you post on timeshifted log - there is more logging and filesize checking with that. Plus an actual screen shot of the graph and finally - when you record a file you can play it back with GBPVR, since it looks more like playback not recording is the issue.,

CV