How to set up a 2250?

[Nichodeamus]

It does come with a remote, yep. And the remote is not connected to, or dependant on the tuner card. Instead, the remote sends and recieves it's IR signals to a separate tiny little remote sensor box, which connects to your computer with a USB cable. And on the back of the little remote box is a couple of IR blaster plugs, and I also recieved two of the little IR transmiter lights with long cords to plug into the back of the box and then stick in front of your cable box, so that your software can send IR signals out to your cable box to change channels.

Here is the sales page where you can buy the remote which came with my card, just so that you can see a picture of the remote and it's box and one of the IR blaster lights.

http://registration.hauppauge.com/websto...mce_remote

[feilh]

$150 bucks with a remote that is a deal. I just returned my HVR-1600 b/c the remote seemed to be defective (Didn't work with anybodies software). I got it working nicely with GBPVR doing clear QAM, but I'm still wondering if I should invest in a 2250 instead. I think many of us are looking for a confirmation that it can really work as a dual tuner with GBPVR...

[Nichodeamus]

So after reading your last few posts, I've decided to go ahead and say this... It will probably get me kicked off your forums or something, but I figure it needs to be said anyway.

First I'll give an example as to why your channel mapping window sucks. I happen to have this ClearQAM channel called HiveTV. Now I've never heard of HiveTV because it's not available on my cable box. And it doesn't show up in any schedule that I can download for my area. But I have this channel none the less. Only I didn't know this channel was even called HiveTV until AFTER I spent about 45 minutes staring at the little 1 inch preview of it, waiting for them to do one of those channel self-advertising things. And once I discovered that it was called HiveTV, because of the way your mapping window works, I could not just name this channel or give it any particular channel number. Instead I had to leave the mapping screen and go make a new channel on the previous screen, which was just automatically assigned channel number 341, because that was the end of my downloaded EPG, AND THEN I could name that new channel HiveTV in the channel creation screen, and then go back into the mapping screen and assign the scanned signal to that channel. Now that's just one example of one channel... What happens when I find out later that the name I gave it is wrong? Or when the cable company changes what they are broadcasting there, from HiveTV to another station? Or how about when they add HiveTV2 or HiveTV Spanish, only I've already added another 10 or 20 channels to my list, so the next available number is 365.

Part of your answer seems to be that I shouldn't be using a downloaded guide at all... Well that would certainly make life easier, but the thing is, a number of the channels that I have, DO in fact have guide listings. And it would be really stupid to just not use a guide at all, so that I couldn't setup any kind of recording, other than to go look up a guide on a webpage and then do the recording manually.

Basicly, the way I see it, your using a cop-out. Your saying "well the available information that we can get from the cable company sucks anyway, so I'm not going to put any more effort into it than the cable companies do" when in fact there is a LOT you COULD do in your software, to help your users work around the fact that ClearQAM from the cable company sucks. Only you aren't willing to do that. It's just to much effort, and hey, it sortof works anyway so you can stick clearQAM in your feature list, right?

I'm not saying I want you to fix ClearQAM for me.. I'm not stupid enough to think that all the mising info from the cable company and the random channel assignements are your fault.. What I'm saying is for the love of god, please give me a better tool to try and fix it myself. Just because the cable company's data is something to be ashamed of, doesn't mean YOUR SOFTWARE should reflect that and be the same way. With a healthy bit of recoding, you COULD at least make the ClearQAM setup a lot less painful than it is. And if the other software developers have given up on the idea, well then you could be the only software package boasting a superior ClearQAM setup, rather than yet another one in the pack which does nothing more than very basic support for it.

For a design concept, go back to that post I made on page 2 of this thread, and read it again.. Only when you are reading it, don't just skim through it thinking to yourself "that's to much trouble and who the hell does this guy think he is anyway".. Instead, read through it and THINK about all of the many little problems that type of setup would solve for your ClearQAM users.

It's not even any kind of a radical design concept. The term is "modular system's isolation" and it's almost identical to the design concepts of most other professional software packages. The idea is that you take a possible bad situation for your users, and you give them the most flexible tool you can in your software for them to fix their situation, by isolating each component and making them modular, so that the user can easily take the parts they need and snap them together.

[mvallevand]

What is your zip code? I want to see what silicon dust says. Nevermind searching The Hive matched your Utah maybe to Comcast in Salt Lake City.

So seaching 84102

http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lin...code=84102

half your stations are mapped for you.

Martin

[feilh]

Nichodeamus, for your info, if the new stations you find are in the Zapit2 listings then the provided SageTV EPG will provide you a program guide for the stations. SageTV does provide you a reasonably sized screen for trying to figure out what the station is. Both GBPVR and SAGETV for my COX cable feed tried to provide me some data about what they thought the station was, but it only seemed to work for ABC, CBS, and NBC. PBS is very challenging for me. I have the same problem you have with both pieces of software for the random channels. Is it a temporary movie download or a new channel I don't know about? You have to watch for awhile.

Can anyone provide a decoder ring to translate the Silicon dust web site channels to what you get out of GBPVR?

I do agree with one comment. The station ID is meaningless way to represent the guide data. Is there a way in GBPVR to change a station ID (WRC) to something like ABC?

[mvallevand]

feih, if you look up your zip code I used 20152 as a quick test, I found

113 hrc 1601 WDCA

So from the channel drop down on WDCAHD, I would select the station id'd as 113.1601
assuming you are using 1.2.13

Martin

[feilh]

Martin,

Thanks. You are correct that does make the mapping processes much easier. What GBPVR really needs is for you "experts" to beef up the wiki. The wiki is really out of dates not having these tricks. I guess the forum is more fun?

[sub]

Basicly, the way I see it, your using a cop-out. Your saying "well the available information that we can get from the cable company sucks anyway, so I'm not going to put any more effort into it than the cable companies do" when in fact there is a LOT you COULD do in your software, to help your users work around the fact that ClearQAM from the cable company sucks. Only you aren't willing to do that.

Its not so much of "cop-out", or that I'm not willing, but more that I'm one guy working on this application in my (limited) spare time. I have to carefully prioritise where I'll spend my time. Given I dont receive any ClearQAM transmissions here in NZ, it takes a huge amount time and effort to develop stuff and have others remotely test it for me. This hassle pushes ClearQAM down the priority list for me - I'd rather spend my time on other features that can be developed more easily, and have been requested by wider group of users.

That said, I have been adding small improvements to help ClearQAM users in recent releases, and these would help many users. For example, in the last release the name of the channel generated in the scan results include the stream program number as part of the name (see mvallevand/feilh post above). For some cable operators that program number matches the cable box channel number, which really helps with the mapping process and takes all the guess work out of it. Another thing that was added for ClearQAM users was the logic that inspects the audio/video packets in the stream to identify the encrypted channels (adding * to the unencrypted channels).

The next release also has the ability to click the video window to get a large view of the video.

It's just to much effort, and hey, it sortof works anyway so you can stick clearQAM in your feature list, right?

I think thats a bit rough. ClearQAM works quite well in GB-PVR. Sure, the setup is more complex than it could be, but most people can setup it up very quickly, and its easy to use from then on. People are free to try it and use it if they want - or find some alternative if it doesnt meet their needs.

[gunterhausfrau]

yikes! maybe he should ask for his money back on the software...oh wait.

Free. Don't have to pay. I for one am very happy, even when things don't work exactly as I would like. I have software (MS) that doesn't work the way I would like, downloads and uploads information at the company's will, crashes or at least doesn't play well with others AND cost $$ and when there is a problem they want more $$ to tell me to reboot or it must be that I've installed hardware or I should contact my system admin, or try it on an identical machine, etc.

Thank you for great sofware, even greater service, and not saying "F*** -it!" and finding something else to do with you time. believe most of us appreciate the effort.

That being said, don't like the software? make a constructive suggestion (try not to use "sucks") thank sub for the trial, and go find other that suits you better. Sometime you might come back? or not.

my $0.02

[mvallevand]

Thanks. You are correct that does make the mapping processes much easier. What GBPVR really needs is for you "experts" to beef up the wiki. The wiki is really out of dates not having these tricks. I guess the forum is more fun?

Glad, it helps, and like I said I wish I had this trouble. What it really means is that people like you that learn how to do this beef up the wiki.

I picked WDCA because forty years ago :eek: my family moved to Falls Church VA (after we left our old round TV with my grandparents) and my parents bought this "huge" 19" B&W TV. The children were not allowed to use UHF and channel 20 was forbidden.

Martin