I keep losing my DVB-T device (Hauppauge)

[lchiu7]

Trying to record DVB-T broadcasts installed a HVR-900H. It works most of the time but occasionally it will de-install or not be recognised. This manifests itself as 1) gbpvr tries to record, creates a zero byte file, tries again with a new file with suffix -1 and again no bytes. 2) going to config and rescanning, gbpvr finds the device but scans shows no channels. Have to reboot to fix it.

After trying all the USB ports on the machine, thought it might the HVR-900 so bought a Nova-T 500 and tried that. Disappointing the same problem occurs

Just wondering if I am missing something here in the installation. It works most of the time but the intermittent failures means I miss out shows and have to reboot to get the device recognised again

Thanks

[sub]

After trying all the USB ports on the machine, thought it might the HVR-900 so bought a Nova-T 500 and tried that. Disappointing the same problem occurs

Reproduce the problem with the 500, then zip and attach the logs and I'll take a look.

[lchiu7]

Thanks. Still working on reproducing the problem. In the interim given this card can record two channels at once, how is it configured to do that? Do you create two sources each with a different device number?

Also when selecting the device there appear to be a bunch of Nova T 500 - noted as (1), (2), (3) - is there anything special about any of them (I chose (2) since (1) gave me the problem initially

Thanks

[sub]

Is this also a USB model, or PCI? I personally would have tried a PCI model when I looking for an alternative for your 'HVR-900H'. If it was the USB model, it sounds like its telling you there is something wrong with your USB support in your machine.

Also when selecting the device there appear to be a bunch of Nova T 500 - noted as (1), (2), (3) - is there anything special about any of them (I chose (2) since (1) gave me the problem initially

I think this model needs to capture sources setup, both as device number 1. One as "Hauppauge Nova-T-500 DVB-T (1)", the other as "Hauppauge Nova-T-500 DVB-T (2)".

[lchiu7]

Is this also a USB model, or PCI? I personally would have tried a PCI model when I looking for an alternative for your 'HVR-900H'. If it was the USB model, it sounds like its telling you there is something wrong with your USB support in your machine.

I think this model needs to capture sources setup, both as device number 1. One as "Hauppauge Nova-T-500 DVB-T (1)", the other as "Hauppauge Nova-T-500 DVB-T (2)".

No the Nova-T 500 is a PCI card (wasn't going USB again with the problems I had with the 900H).

So what you're saying is I should install two devices from the same card, one as (1) and one as (2), both as device 1? Will gave that a try tomorrow after the Olympics tonight

[sub]

So what you're saying is I should install two devices from the same card, one as (1) and one as (2), both as device 1?

To be honest, I dont know. I know thats the case with the USB variety. If you can run the filtercheck.exe utility, then attach the filtercheck.log then I'll tell you what capture sources you need.

[martint123]

The nova-t-500 I have is a PCI board, but appears as USB devices in device manager.
I have a feeling it has USB controllers on-board and is in fact a USB tuner.
I have mine setup as the two entries "Hauppauge Nova-T-500 DVB-T (1)", the other as "Hauppauge Nova-T-500 DVB-T (2)" with both set as device nr 1.

[lchiu7]

The nova-t-500 I have is a PCI board, but appears as USB devices in device manager.
I have a feeling it has USB controllers on-board and is in fact a USB tuner.
I have mine setup as the two entries "Hauppauge Nova-T-500 DVB-T (1)", the other as "Hauppauge Nova-T-500 DVB-T (2)" with both set as device nr 1.

Thanks will try that out. Mine shows up as a video controller, not as a USB device. Under Sound/Video Controllers it shows up as Hauppauge Nova-DT Dual DVB-T Tuner Device (+IR)

I guess my question is, if I add the second tuner as (2) but they have the same program guide, how do I tell the system which tuner to use for what channel?

Thanks

[lchiu7]

To be honest, I dont know. I know thats the case with the USB variety. If you can run the filtercheck.exe utility, then attach the filtercheck.log then I'll tell you what capture sources you need.

Thanks

The check isn't too large so posting it here

23:59:34.546 INFO Log started
23:59:34.546 INFO Filter Check v1.0
23:59:34.546 INFO
23:59:34.546 INFO
23:59:34.546 INFO Checking AM_KSCATEGORY_CAPTURE filters
23:59:34.968 INFO found: SoundMAX Digital Audio
23:59:34.984 INFO - (input) Render
23:59:34.984 INFO - (output) Sum
23:59:35.000 INFO - (output) Recording Control
23:59:35.000 INFO - (input) ADC
23:59:35.000 INFO - (input) SPDIF Interface
23:59:35.000 INFO
23:59:35.000 INFO found: Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture
23:59:35.281 INFO - (output) Capture
23:59:35.281 INFO - (input) Analog Video In
23:59:35.281 INFO - (input) Analog Audio In
23:59:35.281 INFO - (output) VBI
23:59:35.281 INFO - (output) Video YUV
23:59:35.281 INFO - (output) Audio PCM
23:59:35.281 INFO - (output) Preview Video
23:59:35.281 INFO - (output) Preview Audio
23:59:35.281 INFO
23:59:35.281 INFO
23:59:35.281 INFO
23:59:35.281 INFO Checking AM_KSCATEGORY_ENCODER filters
23:59:35.296 INFO
23:59:35.312 INFO
23:59:35.312 INFO Checking AM_KSCATEGORY_CROSSBAR filters
23:59:35.312 INFO found: Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Crossbar
23:59:35.343 INFO - (input) 0: Video Tuner In
23:59:35.343 INFO - (input) 1: Video Composite In
23:59:35.343 INFO - (input) 2: Video Composite In
23:59:35.343 INFO - (input) 3: Video SVideo In
23:59:35.343 INFO - (input) 4: Audio Line In
23:59:35.343 INFO - (input) 5: Audio Tuner In
23:59:35.343 INFO - (output) 0: Video Decoder Out
23:59:35.343 INFO - (output) 1: Audio Decoder Out
23:59:35.343 INFO
23:59:35.343 INFO
23:59:35.343 INFO
23:59:35.343 INFO Checking AM_KSCATEGORY_TVTUNER filters
23:59:35.343 INFO found: Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II TvTuner
23:59:35.375 INFO - (output) Analog Video
23:59:35.375 INFO - (output) Analog Audio
23:59:35.375 INFO - (output) FM Audio
23:59:35.375 INFO
23:59:35.375 INFO
23:59:35.375 INFO
23:59:35.375 INFO Checking AM_KSCATEGORY_TVAUDIO filters
23:59:35.406 INFO found: Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II TvAudio
23:59:35.421 INFO - (input) TVAudio In
23:59:35.421 INFO - (output) TVAudio Out
23:59:35.421 INFO
23:59:35.421 INFO
23:59:35.421 INFO
23:59:35.421 INFO Checking AM_KSCATEGORY_VBICODEC filters
23:59:35.421 INFO found: NABTS/FEC VBI Codec
23:59:35.531 INFO - (input) VBI
23:59:35.531 INFO - (output) NABTS
23:59:35.531 INFO - (input) HWNABTS
23:59:35.531 INFO
23:59:35.531 INFO found: CC Decoder
23:59:35.578 INFO - (input) VBI
23:59:35.578 INFO - (output) CC
23:59:35.578 INFO - (input) HWCC
23:59:35.578 INFO
23:59:35.578 INFO found: WST Codec
23:59:35.656 INFO - (input) VBI
23:59:35.656 INFO - (output) Teletext
23:59:35.656 INFO
23:59:35.656 INFO
23:59:35.656 INFO
23:59:35.656 INFO Checking KSCATEGORY_BDA_NETWORK_TUNER filters
23:59:35.687 INFO found: Nova-DT DVB-T Tuner (Dev1 Path0)
23:59:35.750 INFO - (input) Input0
23:59:35.750 INFO - (output) MPEG2 Transport
23:59:35.750 INFO
23:59:35.750 INFO found: Nova-DT DVB-T Tuner (Dev1 Path1)
23:59:35.750 INFO - (input) Input0
23:59:35.750 INFO - (output) MPEG2 Transport
23:59:35.750 INFO
23:59:35.750 INFO
23:59:35.750 INFO
23:59:35.750 INFO Checking KSCATEGORY_BDA_RECEIVER_COMPONENT filters
23:59:35.812 INFO found: BDA Slip De-Framer
23:59:35.859 INFO - (input) NABTS
23:59:35.859 INFO - (output) IPv4
23:59:35.859 INFO
23:59:35.875 INFO found: BDA MPE Filter
23:59:35.953 INFO - (input) MPE
23:59:35.953 INFO - (output) IPv4
23:59:35.953 INFO
23:59:35.953 INFO found: Nova-DT DVB-T Capture (Dev1 Path0)
23:59:36.000 INFO - (input) MPEG2 Transport
23:59:36.015 INFO - (output) MPEG2 Transport
23:59:36.015 INFO
23:59:36.046 INFO found: Nova-DT DVB-T Capture (Dev1 Path1)
23:59:36.062 INFO - (input) MPEG2 Transport
23:59:36.078 INFO - (output) MPEG2 Transport
23:59:36.078 INFO

[martint123]

Thanks will try that out. Mine shows up as a video controller, not as a USB device. Under Sound/Video Controllers it shows up as Hauppauge Nova-DT Dual DVB-T Tuner Device (+IR)

Yes, mine shows as a video controller as well, but also under the USB section of device manager a number of usb devices were added. The output of DEVCON for the device also gives an indication of a USB device...

USB\VID_2040&PID_9951\4027355045
Name: USB Composite Device
Driver is running.
USB\VID_2040&PID_9951&MI_00\6&1A7D4F77&0&0000
Name: Hauppauge Nova-DT Dual DVB-T Tuner Device (+IR)
Driver is running.
USB\VID_2040&PID_9951&MI_01\6&1A7D4F77&0&0001
Name: Hauppauge Nova-DT IR
Driver is running.

I guess my question is, if I add the second tuner as (2) but they have the same program guide, how do I tell the system which tuner to use for what channel?

It doesn't matter really. You just put all the available channels on both tuners and gbpvr will work out which one to use. The concept of "which tuner to use" is out of the users hands (other than the position in the list of tuners - top down for recording and bottom up for live TV viewing).

I have 5 tuners, all capable of receiving BBC1, so it could be any.

Hmmm. One tuner is paired with my tuner for the Sky STB on a pvr150 - I would hope (but aren't sure) that as it is mutually exclusive, then it would be used last......

Martin