Possible N-PVR Wiki

[mvallevand]

Also from the page you quoted (http://gbpvr.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Plugi...ionPlugins) you are only 2 mouse clicks away from this:

http://gbpvr.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Plugin/Plugin#toc4

I think users know enough about hyperlinking to deal with this. I don't worry too much about the ads for bed-wetting solutions I see on the forums.gbpvr.com. It's the pee in PVR I guess.

Martin

[steeb]

Steeb if you could just double check that I haven't made a mess. I'm definitely gonna need a beginners course from you

Certainly not a mess and great to see a 'starter'! We would need to look at overall structure before too many pages get added though to preserve the integrity of a correct structure. You have added Wave as a page at the top of the group directory for N-PVR whereas it should really be in a 'skin' group within the N-PVR group directory, but you couldn't do that because that group doesn't exist yet

Think of a group as a folder, I have created the folder N-PVR, from this point anything created within:

http://gbpvr.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/N-PVR/

will be inside the N-PVR folder, so the pages you created here:

http://gbpvr.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/N-PVR/Skins

and here:

http://gbpvr.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/N-PVR/Wave

is just a page at the top level of the N-PVR folder.

but we need to do some housekeeping otherwise that folder will just become full of random pages all to do with N-PVR but with no ability to keep track of them. So we need a filesystem to keep everything tidy. The best way to do this will be to put more folders inside the N-PVR folder, giving them specific names, hence something like:

.....//gbpvr.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/N-PVR/Skins/Skins (I don't give proper URL here otherwise if you click on it as a wiki author it will be created!!!)

this way all skins will now be inside the folder (group) skins which in turn is inside the folder (group) N-PVR, wrapping everything up nicely and making it fairly seamless to shift this wiki around wherever it may go in the future. (The current wiki works on exactly the same principle)

What would need to be decided is how this folder structure may work best.

I do hope you take this for what it is which is 100% positive criticism Fantastic to see some content up there!

Links to sections in the leftbar (I couldn't work out how the hell to do this).

In the words of Fatman_do 'wiki magic'

very best

Steeb

[imilne]

I'm willing to take a stab at writing up my System plugin for nPVR. Obviously it would go in plugins, but should we be subdividing beyond that again like GBPVR did with the different types of plugin (even though there aren't that many plugins yet)?

I'm obviously missing how to log in (or register) for the wiki though, as my forum username/password doesn't work.

Iain

[sub]

sub, I completely respect that you are focused on getting nPVR, as an application, where you would like it to be. I do feel that it would be helpful if you weighed in on this one. Do you envisage a new wiki for nPVR? or do you feel that the current infrastructure can handle any new information/community created content?

I dont mind if its done in the current wiki with an alternate contents page, or new wiki, but I would like to see a wiki just discussing NPVR stuff with a link to the old legacy GBPVR wiki information. I'm effectively killing GBPVR, and I'd prefer not having info about it mixed in with the current stuff - giving the user's the incorrect impression that this older stuff is being maintained etc. The links on the website will be pretty quickly be changed to point to the NPVR contents page.

At the rate we're going so far, it isnt going to take long for most people to be using NPVR, and at that stage the old wiki info will start to become a thorn in our side if its all mixed in together.

[steeb]

Hi Iain

I'm willing to take a stab at writing up my System plugin for nPVR. Obviously it would go in plugins, but should we be subdividing beyond that again like GBPVR did with the different types of plugin (even though there aren't that many plugins yet)?

please see my previous post to Hairy about structure, I cannot emphasise enough how important it is to get this correct right from the start! So you are totally right to be thinking about this.

I'm obviously missing how to log in (or register) for the wiki though, as my forum username/password doesn't work.

The wiki uses a separate log in from the forums, contact blader_se and he shall provide your wish!

http://forums.gbpvr.com/member.php?u=2848

cheers

Steeb

[Hairy]

You have added Wave as a page at the top of the group directory for N-PVR whereas it should really be in a 'skin' group within the N-PVR group directory, but you couldn't do that because that group doesn't exist yet

That's what I thought from reading the beginners guide on the pmwiki site. I was trying to place the wave page inside the skins folder. I was afraid I'd left a bit of a noob mess

What would need to be decided is how this folder structure may work best

Do you have any suggestions? We could concentrate on skins and plugins for now, just as that's where the demand is. ???

[Hairy]

I dont mind if its done in the current wiki with an alternate contents page, or new wiki, but I would like to see a wiki just discussing NPVR stuff with a link to the old legacy GBPVR wiki information. I'm effectively killing GBPVR, and I'd prefer not having info about it mixed in with the current stuff - giving the user's the incorrect impression that this older stuff is being maintained etc. The links on the website will be pretty quickly be changed to point to the NPVR contents page.

At the rate we're going so far, it isnt going to take long for most people to be using NPVR, and at that stage the old wiki info will start to become a thorn in our side if its all mixed in together.

Cheers sub, I think this will help people focus in on which way to go.

[steeb]

That's what I thought from reading the beginners guide on the pmwiki site. I was trying to place the wave page inside the skins folder. I was afraid I'd left a bit of a noob mess

Not at all, no mess, just some tidying to do!

Do you have any suggestions? We could concentrate on skins and plugins for now, just as that's where the demand is. ???

I would absolutely concentrate ONLY on Skins/Plugins and perhaps Utilities (If anyone is creating one, I know I've seen a GB-PVR to N-PVR utility or some such on the forums) for now as per my comment at the start of this thread. I will put suggestions forward v soon (just getting the old grey matter churning away to devise a plan Back soon :eek:

[Edit]

just getting the old grey matter churning away to devise a plan Back soon

What I should have said is I have many plans just working out the best ones! [/End Edit

best wishes

Steeb

[Jaggy]

OK here's my .01c worth.

Firstly I really dislike plugins/skins/utilities being under a heading "3rd party additions" for a couple of reasons, it is another unnecessary click to get to them & it makes them hidden away & it is hard enough getting new users to have a play with the tack'ons as it is. Because most users get there first introduction to plugins & skins from the forum & often the messages are negative towards them ie. "if you select the default skin does that fix it" type messages (lets be honest the plugins & skins are what really put the icing on the cake for your PVR) I would like to see more users trying them out. I also really do think sub should add a few instructions to his new release messages to suggest some plugins & skins may be broken until they are updated & to select the default skin before updating etc. etc.

Why not basically set it up like the current wiki is now, after Fatman_do's last modifications to the basic structure it is working well & is fairly new user friendly....isn't it?

[steeb]

@ Jaggy,

exactly the type of comment needed to drive this forward

Steeb