Can´t get NPVR - NEWCS - ACAMD to work

[Barsk]

@RedDwarf
From the logs of newcs. It dumps a lot of different Provider IDs (and none of them is 23208 btw so that is a mystery). And I tried them in order and found 20500 to work (but only for 6.1.8). Other sources on the net find that removing the preferred providerId totally also works. I don't remember how that worked for me though.
When I am back home I can post an example of the newcs log that I refere to here.

[Reddwarf]

@RedDwarf
From the logs of newcs. It dumps a lot of different Provider IDs (and none of them is 23208 btw so that is a mystery). And I tried them in order and found 20500 to work (but only for 6.1.8). Other sources on the net find that removing the preferred providerId totally also works. I don't remember how that worked for me though.
When I am back home I can post an example of the newcs log that I refere to here.

Ok, thanks.

BTW: PM me so we don't hijack this thread completly :p

[andcar]

I tried the newcs.xml from Barsk and then it worked!
Thanks alot for all yor help!

However there are two more issues:

1) I read what Barsk wrote about several instances and several users. I tried a few things but didnt got it to work, can you give an example of how those parts of newcs.xml and cardclient.conf should be.

2) Sometimes the channelshift takes a lot of time switching to a encrypted channel. It is relatively fast between uncrypted channels but sometimes it takes 20 seconds to change to a encrypted channel. Is that normal?

Thanks again!

[tmrt]

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1) I read what Barsk wrote about several instances and several users. I tried a few things but didnt got it to work, can you give an example of how those parts of newcs.xml and cardclient.conf should be.

I just added several newcs users via the http interface and set up a different username in each cardclient.conf.
You need however to increase the number of instances in the device setup dialog, so additional folders appear under MDPlugins and copy acamd related files to each folder.

2) Sometimes the channelshift takes a lot of time switching to a encrypted channel. It is relatively fast between uncrypted channels but sometimes it takes 20 seconds to change to a encrypted channel. Is that normal?
Thanks again!

The decryption key is only sent with certain time period, which depends on the provider. This can introduce a delay when you switch channels just after one key has been sent.

[Barsk]

I tried the newcs.xml from Barsk and then it worked!
Thanks alot for all yor help!

Glad we could sort it out. I am sure there was a syntax error in your config somewhere. The parser they use in newcs is not very good at finding those errors and a bug can be tricky to find. For instance I had this error in my setup:

Code:

<name>Phoenix on COM3</name>
            <type>phoenix</type>
            <mhz>368/mhz>
            <node>COM3</node>

Note the missing "<" after 368. That type of errors newcs is extremely bad on finding. This problem caused some really strange errors...

1) I read what Barsk wrote about several instances and several users. I tried a few things but didnt got it to work, can you give an example of how those parts of newcs.xml and cardclient.conf should be.

Sure, here is an example. Just fill up with as many user sections you need. I have nine. I name the users according to the tuner/instance naming scheme to make it easier to remember. I.e tuner 1, instance 1 is dummy11. Tuner 2, instance 3 would be dummy23 and so on. I use dummy as the password on all. I do NOT share my smartcard with any other (that is illegal) so using dummy names and passwords are perfectly Ok. Here is part of the newcamd section in newcs.xml:

Code:

<newcamdserver>
            <enabled>Yes</enabled>
            <name>newcs</name>
            <deskey>01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14</deskey>
            <user>
                <name>dummy11</name>
                <password>dummy</password>
                <au>on</au>
                <sidoverride>off</sidoverride>
                <spider>No</spider>
                                <cardlevel>1</cardlevel>

            </user>
            <user>
                <name>dummy12</name>
                <password>dummy</password>
                <au>on</au>
                <sidoverride>off</sidoverride>
                <spider>No</spider>
                                <cardlevel>1</cardlevel>

            </user>
            <user>
                <name>dummy13</name>
                <password>dummy</password>
                <au>on</au>
                <sidoverride>off</sidoverride>
                <spider>No</spider>
                                <cardlevel>1</cardlevel>

            </user>
            <user>
                <name>dummy21</name>
                <password>dummy</password>
                <au>on</au>
                <sidoverride>off</sidoverride>
                <spider>No</spider>
                                <cardlevel>1</cardlevel>

            </user>
            ...and so on...
    </newcamdserver>

Each instance in the mdplugins folder would use a single user account from these.
Tuner 1, instance 1: The cardclient.conf contains:

Code:

newcamd:127.0.0.1:15000:1/0500/ffff:dummy11:dummy:0102030405060708091011121314

Tuner 2, instance 2:

Code:

newcamd:127.0.0.1:15000:1/0500/ffff:dummy22:dummy:0102030405060708091011121314

and so on... I used some random instances above. Normally you set up things in the right order.

2) Sometimes the channelshift takes a lot of time switching to a encrypted channel. It is relatively fast between uncrypted channels but sometimes it takes 20 seconds to change to a encrypted channel. Is that normal?

For me a channel change with encrypted channel takes about 1-5 seconds. There is a cache though, and during your problematic testings the cache may have been filled with garbage (mine was). So empty the chcache.ini file and also the AcamdTemp folder if you run acamd 6.1.8. That sorted out my problems. Other than that. No idea... What phoenix interface are you using? Is it set up right?

[Barsk]

@RedDwarf
I think this would be of general interest, and I have no further to add so the hijacking stops here anyway.
This is what newcs 1.65 spews out on the initial startup. Well a portion of it:

Code:

[ 22:36:20 ] [ Viaccess ] Status Word from Card: 9008
[ 22:36:20 ] [ KeymaN ] Adding key xxxxxxxx type 1 on Provider 020500 for caid 0500 ID=1
[ 22:36:20 ] [ Viaccess ] Sending to Card: xxxxxxxxx

There are a number of those lines with provider ids. I just tried them and 20500 kind of worked... I might have been lucky?
Changed the key values with xxxx. They are of no interest anyway here.

[Reddwarf]

@RedDwarf
I think this would be of general interest, and I have no further to add so the hijacking stops here anyway.
This is what newcs 1.65 spews out on the initial startup. Well a portion of it:

Code:

[ 22:36:20 ] [ Viaccess ] Status Word from Card: 9008
[ 22:36:20 ] [ KeymaN ] Adding key xxxxxxxx type 1 on Provider 020500 for caid 0500 ID=1
[ 22:36:20 ] [ Viaccess ] Sending to Card: xxxxxxxxx

There are a number of those lines with provider ids. I just tried them and 20500 kind of worked... I might have been lucky?
Changed the key values with xxxx. They are of no interest anyway here.

Thanks, I'll have a closer look at my logs.

[andcar]

I have some problems with more than one instance, often but not everytime i get these errors:

acamdmonitor:
[SIZE="1"]17:56:27.941: Login attemp (1)
17:56:27.942: connecting to 127.0.0.1:16000/tcp (127.0.0.1)
17:56:27.948: socket: EOF on read
17:56:27.948: recv error. reconnecting...
17:56:27.948: failed to login to cardserver for username user11 (proto 525)[/SIZE]

newcs:
[SIZE="1"][ 17:56:27 ] [ Newcamd ] new connection from 127.0.0.1 on socket 1224
[ 17:56:27 ] [ Newcamd:16000 ] connection from 127.0.0.1
[ 17:56:27 ] [ Newcamd:16000 ] user11 logged in, client: Generic
[ 17:56:27 ] [ Newcamd:16000 ] Connection from user11 to not-ready server![/SIZE]

I have not find a pattern but when I change back to 1 instance everything works again

[Barsk]

Something wrong with newcs here. The acamd client is doing its job and try to login with user11. Newcs logs the user in, but the server is "not-ready".
Either newcs has not initialized itself or the smartcard correctly. I have had some "glitches" of that sort. Normally when you start newcs it spews out a series of logging info that forms a pattern that one gets used to rather quickly. If something is weird, that pattern is different. My USB-Serial communication on Win 7 is clearly not bug free as it on occasion hangs. I then get an initialise error on the card. Unplugging and re-plugging the USB connnector solves it. (This is with a Phoenix reader from AD-Teknik in Sweden. It uses a FTDI USB-Serial device. Worked perfectly in XP).

I bet there is a syntax error of some sort that I mentioned earlier. I.e some "<" or ">" or end tag missing, or something put into the wrong section. As I have mentioned before. The parser that newcs uses is not that good at spotting and pointing out errors in the xml format. It just fails and produces weird errors. Check the syntax thoroughly for any errors. If you can't find the error, post the whole config here so we can have a look.

[Reddwarf]

I have some problems with more than one instance, often but not everytime i get these errors:

acamdmonitor:
[SIZE="1"]17:56:27.941: Login attemp (1)
17:56:27.942: connecting to 127.0.0.1:16000/tcp (127.0.0.1)
17:56:27.948: socket: EOF on read
17:56:27.948: recv error. reconnecting...
17:56:27.948: failed to login to cardserver for username user11 (proto 525)[/SIZE]

newcs:
[SIZE="1"][ 17:56:27 ] [ Newcamd ] new connection from 127.0.0.1 on socket 1224
[ 17:56:27 ] [ Newcamd:16000 ] connection from 127.0.0.1
[ 17:56:27 ] [ Newcamd:16000 ] user11 logged in, client: Generic
[ 17:56:27 ] [ Newcamd:16000 ] Connection from user11 to not-ready server![/SIZE]

I have not find a pattern but when I change back to 1 instance everything works again

I see from an earlier post that you set parity to ODD, my smartcard runs with EVEN parity and two stopbits. Have you tried other parity settings?