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NPVR.log filling with spurious MCE events

NPVR.log filling with spurious MCE events
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2015-08-19, 12:11 AM
It appears my NPVR.log file is getting LOTS of spurious MCE event messages.

Here's a small sample;

2015-08-18 14:43:41.022 [DEBUG][1] raw message: 0x0
2015-08-18 14:43:41.022 [DEBUG][1] Not processing: 0x0
2015-08-18 14:43:41.033 [DEBUG][1] raw message: 0x14
2015-08-18 14:43:41.033 [DEBUG][1] Not processing: 0x14
2015-08-18 14:43:41.044 [DEBUG][1] raw message: 0x14
2015-08-18 14:43:41.044 [DEBUG][1] Not processing: 0x14
2015-08-18 14:43:41.066 [DEBUG][1] raw message: 0x13
2015-08-18 14:43:41.066 [DEBUG][1] Not processing: 0x13
2015-08-18 14:43:41.077 [DEBUG][1] raw message: 0x13
2015-08-18 14:43:41.077 [DEBUG][1] Not processing: 0x13
2015-08-18 14:43:41.099 [DEBUG][1] raw message: 0x13
2015-08-18 14:43:41.099 [DEBUG][1] Not processing: 0x13
2015-08-18 14:43:41.143 [DEBUG][1] raw message: 0x11
2015-08-18 14:43:41.143 [DEBUG][1] Not processing: 0x11
2015-08-18 14:43:41.153 [DEBUG][1] raw message: 0x11
2015-08-18 14:43:41.153 [DEBUG][1] Not processing: 0x11
2015-08-18 14:43:41.175 [DEBUG][1] raw message: 0x10
2015-08-18 14:43:41.175 [DEBUG][1] Not processing: 0x10

I'm not sure when this started but it's possible it was after updating from Win 8.1 Pro to Win 10 Pro. I spent a bunch of time eliminating NPVR plugins (TV Listings, Volume), other input devices, etc as the source before realizing that disabling the NextPVR "Handle MCE Remote Events" setting on the Misc2 screen stopped the messages. (Green button start disabled too.)

The messages are being logged even when NPVR is in full screen mode but is not the foreground window.

The "MCE Remote" on the system is a Rosewill RHRC-11001 and is probably not officially certified by Microsoft.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6880101007

The Remote's USB receiver has a red LED that flashes when receiving IR signals from the remote but the LED does not flash when not actually using the remote. (It doesn't appear to be triggering on spurious sources).

Any suggestions would be appreciated as the remote occasionally comes in handy to control NPVR and I've been forced to disable it in NPVR to avoid the excessive logging.

Can all NPVR logging be disabled? I understand how valuable logs can be when issues occur but I prefer disabling logging when not troubleshooting.

What are the valid values for LogLevel in config.xml? I've searched for info with no luck.

Any help would be appreciated. NPVR.log (sanitized) attached.

Thanks
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2015-08-19, 12:18 AM
Must be some oddity with your IR receiver. It sounds like its sending a continue stream of events.

You can set <LogLevel>ERROR</LogLevel> in config.xml's <General> section. If you ever want to post any logs though, you're going to need to put it back to DEBUG.
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2015-08-19, 02:09 AM
Thanks for the reply! LogLevel to ERROR at least masks the issue and eliminates most of the logging when I don't need/want it.

They seem to happen too fast and frequently to be tied to the IR decoding logic. The IR remote is also reliable in use with NextPVR and other programs.

I was surprised that NextPVR is even "seeing" MCE remote events when it's not the foreground window with keyboard focus. It doesn't respond to valid events unless it's the foreground window with keyboard focus (Pause/Play/skip/etc).

I guess I'll go looking for MCE remote re-mapping apps when I have time and hopefully find one which can show the raw event stream to verify another program sees the events too.

Thanks again for your prompt reply!

If I still have your attention... is there a way to stop NRECORD with a script (.bat file) or scheduled task that doesn't require user intervention (UAC)?

Since upgrading from Win 8.1 Pro to Win 10 Pro, my pc has been waking from sleep when nothing is scheduled. Usually abouit a minute after it goes to sleep. When it happens "powercfg /lastwake" shows NRECORD as the wake source. I've gone through all the devices in device manager and disabled "allow this device to wake the PC" so the only valid wake event should be the power button or a waketimer.

I haven't seen any of these unwanted wakes from sleep if I run "Stop NPVR Service" before putting the PC to sleep.

PC is typically on 18+ hours/day and set to never sleep automatically. I often like to grab one news program after I go to bed and use a program called "PC Sleep" to put it to sleep a couple of minutes after the recording ends. Waking problem occurs when not using "PC Sleep" and putting it to sleep with the power button.
http://www.pc-sleep.com/

Any way to disable NRECORD from waking the PC? I understand I'll lose the ability for a scheduled recording to wake the PC.
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2015-08-19, 02:18 AM
anothernewbie Wrote:They seem to happen too fast and frequently to be tied to the IR decoding logic. The IR remote is also reliable in use with NextPVR and other programs.
Those messages are definitely being sent by something. NextPVR will quite happily ignore them. I'm sure your other apps are probably getting them to, but you just weren't aware of it. It might not be the IR hardware generating it. It could be some other software you have installed. They're not being generated by NextPVR.


Quote:If I still have your attention... is there a way to stop NRECORD with a script (.bat file) or scheduled task that doesn't require user intervention (UAC)?
No, since regular users can't stop services. I'm pretty sure you can still disable UAC if you want to, which will get around the issue.

Quote:Since upgrading from Win 8.1 Pro to Win 10 Pro, my pc has been waking from sleep when nothing is scheduled. Usually abouit a minute after it goes to sleep. When it happens "powercfg /lastwake" shows NRECORD as the wake source. I've gone through all the devices in device manager and disabled "allow this device to wake the PC" so the only valid wake event should be the power button or a waketimer.

I haven't seen any of these unwanted wakes from sleep if I run "Stop NPVR Service" before putting the PC to sleep.

PC is typically on 18+ hours/day and set to never sleep automatically. I often like to grab one news program after I go to bed and use a program called "PC Sleep" to put it to sleep a couple of minutes after the recording ends. Waking problem occurs when not using "PC Sleep" and putting it to sleep with the power button.
http://www.pc-sleep.com/

Any way to disable NRECORD from waking the PC? I understand I'll lose the ability for a scheduled recording to wake the PC.
You can set <ScheduleWakeups>false</ScheduleWakeups> in config.xml, and it wont make any requests of Windows to be awake at certain times.
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2015-08-19, 02:43 AM
Slight digression, but does Win10 have the ehome driver for the "real" MCE remote that Windows versions with WMC have? It looks like that Rosewill remote is a "real" remote that would use the ehome driver (as opposed to the "fake" remotes that don't use the driver and only do keyboard emulation). Note that Newegg does not list Win10 for the remote. Smile
HTPC: Optiplex 7010, HDHR Prime/Avermedia Duet A188, NPVR 4.2.5, Win10 Pro
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2015-08-19, 03:20 AM
mikeh49 Wrote:Slight digression, but does Win10 have the ehome driver for the "real" MCE remote that Windows versions with WMC have? It looks like that Rosewill remote is a "real" remote that would use the ehome driver (as opposed to the "fake" remotes that don't use the driver and only do keyboard emulation). Note that Newegg does not list Win10 for the remote. Smile
I've only done minimal Win10 testing at this stage and don't know the answer to this. Someone else might be able to tell you.
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