EPG Not Updating

[LeoL]

Hi,

I am new to NexPVR and have it running ok on my main PC. However, I found that many of my timed recordings were not recording. These were set to record from the Guide using Kodi. What I discovered is that the EPG is not being updated. I had assumed that the initial information to set the recording was obtained from EPG and it would then set the date/time regardless of the EPG being updated. However, this does not seem to be the case, so I assume that it checks for the information in the Guide and if the Guide is not updated then it does not record. Is this correct?

I'm in the UK using a TBS6892 satellite card. Could someone please tell me how to sort out the problem of the guide not being updated?

Could someone also tell me, if my PC is in sleep mode, will NextPVR wake my PC to record a programme?

Thanks,

Leo

[sub]

Hi,

I am new to NexPVR and have it running ok on my main PC. However, I found that many of my timed recordings were not recording. These were set to record from the Guide using Kodi. What I discovered is that the EPG is not being updated. I had assumed that the initial information to set the recording was obtained from EPG and it would then set the date/time regardless of the EPG being updated. However, this does not seem to be the case, so I assume that it checks for the information in the Guide and if the Guide is not updated then it does not record. Is this correct?

There is generally two types of recordings, guide recordings and manual recordings.

Manual Recordings are on a specific channel, at a specific time.

Guide Recordings are like when you select a show in the guide, and say 'record series', and it'll automatically schedule any airings of that show that come up in the guide. These are what most people use, and generally much better since they can cope with variations in show times etc (and can handle weeks when shows don't air, catch double length season finales etc), but obviously needs you to have a working guide.

I'm in the UK using a TBS6892 satellite card. Could someone please tell me how to sort out the problem of the guide not being updated?

You'll need to post your logs so we can see why it didn't update.

Could someone also tell me, if my PC is in sleep mode, will NextPVR wake my PC to record a programme?

Yes

[Bobins]

Are you tuning the satellite card to receive FreeSat channels and if so, did you set the EPG source to FreeSat in the channel setup when you scanned?
What time have you set the EG to update? What happens if you trigger a manual EPG update?
As Sub said, You'll need to send your logs after an EPG update for us to help.

[Graham]

I'm in the UK using a TBS6892 satellite card. Could someone please tell me how to sort out the problem of the guide not being updated?

Did you set an auto update time at NextPVR Settings --> Misc2?

[LeoL]

Thanks for your help and patience. I'm afraid I can't even work out how to use this forum. I typed up a reply and it seemed to disappear!

In answer to some of the questions. I think all my problems stem from the fact that I don't really understand how to manage channels in NextPVR. What I want is just the Freesat channels plus the regional channels. But one tuner is showing 268 channels and the other 427. I don't know why?

The EPG is set to update at 2:00am but I don't know if NextPVR turns on the PC to do that update. TV Guide Minutes is set to 300 but I don't know what that means? Does it mean that it only downloads 5hrs of EPG data?

I did a manual EPG update and this seemed to work - kind of. I seem to have multiple BBC One HD channels. Some of these have EPG data and some don't. I don't know what the difference is between these different BBC One HD channels? The same is true for BBC Two HD, Channel 4 HD and others. Am I right in assuming that if NextPVR does not get EPG data then a GUIDE recording will not record?

When I first started playing with NextPVR it was because my Panasonic PVR was low on disk space. Then we had a storm and the Panasonic no longer thinks it has a satellite even though it does. So, now I really want to get NextPVR set-up to record.

It seems that I need to rescan the Tuners and set-up channels again. Is this correct? If so, what do I need to do to get the Freesat Channels, the local channels and the EPG data for these?

I would also like to get the channels in the order I want them in Kodi but I failed to do this before. Again, I assume this is because I don't know how to manage channels in NextPVR. Is this correct? At the moment Kodi shows channels as (1 - Channel 4, 2 - Film4, 3 - Film4+1 etc.) What I want is (1 - BBC One HD, 2 - BBC Two HD, 3 - ITV HD etc.). How do I achieve this?

BTW, I did try following the wiki but I just couldn't work out the channels part. Again, thank you for the time and your patience.

One last question if I may? Is it possible to run NextPVR in a virtualised environment and is anyone doing that? My current hardware does not have the virtualisation features to access the tuner card. But I am interested in buying new hardware to do this and I wondered if anyone had done it?

[Graham]

What I want is just the Freesat channels plus the regional channels. But one tuner is showing 268 channels and the other 427.
The EPG is set to update at 2:00am but I don't know if NextPVR turns on the PC to do that update.

You might want to start again to be sure that any previous fiddling about hasn't caused an upset ... In NextPVR Settings --> Devices Click Device Setup to get to ... http://www.nextpvr.com/nwiki/pmwiki.php?...etupDialog

Delete all channels using ... click top channel, shift key, click bottom channel, click Delete button ... Repeat to delete all channels in all devices.

In one device do a Scan to get channels ... Scan in only one device then click OK to go back to the devices list ... Click Export Channels ... You can then click on each device and then click Import Channels to read the previously exported channel list. You should finish with the same channels on all devices.

Go to NextPVR Settings --> Channels ... You can right click on a channel and select Merge to merge duplicates into a single channel in NextPVR (if there are any) ... The rightmost column should show N sources where N is the number of tuners that you have.

NextPVR is able to get EPG data from one of several sources. The easiest is to get EPG data from the broadcast stream and that is the default in NextPVR. The auto update will wake the machine from sleep to get EPG data. Problems can occur if NextPVR is trying to record when the auto EPG update starts so most of us set the EPG update time to 3 or 4 in the morning.

I recommend that you get everything working in NextPVR including recording and playback before trying to fiddle with Kodi.

[Bobins]

I agree with Graham. Start from a clean sheet.
To add to Graham's post, Before you do the scan, from the setup screen make sure you're selecting the right satellites to scan. (Astra 2E, 2F & 2G on 28.2)
After the scan is complete, it is normal to see multiple copies of the various channels. This is either different regional copies of sometimes channels with different audio or subtitle options.
Obviously select the ones you want and delete the ones you don't
Also make sure the EPG source is set to FreeSat for each channel.
Do this before the export from tuner 1 and import to tuner 2 Graham is suggesting.

[sub]

The EPG is set to update at 2:00am but I don't know if NextPVR turns on the PC to do that update.

Yes, NextPVR will ask windows to be awake at EPG update time. It'll wake your machine at that time.

TV Guide Minutes is set to 300 but I don't know what that means? Does it mean that it only downloads 5hrs of EPG data?

This isn't to do with how much data is captured. It'll always capture all the guide data available. This settings is about how many minutes are shown at one time in the NextPVR TV Guide screen. (some people like to see about 2 hours of listings at a time, some like heaps of data crammed in so go for more)

One last question if I may? Is it possible to run NextPVR in a virtualised environment and is anyone doing that? My current hardware does not have the virtualisation features to access the tuner card. But I am interested in buying new hardware to do this and I wondered if anyone had done it?

In my experience, VMs are not practical if you're intending to capture from PCIe/USB devices connected to your PC. One of my customers tried a dozen or so different devices in a VM that had PCI passthrough, while some of the devices kind of worked, they all had problems. The drivers for these devices did not like running in a VM. With a VM you can use network tuners though.

[sub]

In answer to some of the questions. I think all my problems stem from the fact that I don't really understand how to manage channels in NextPVR. What I want is just the Freesat channels plus the regional channels. But one tuner is showing 268 channels and the other 427. I don't know why?

The way you'd normally setup a system with multiple tuners - scan on one tuner and get the channels how you want them, then when you double click on the second tuner, it'll tell you another tuner of the same type is already setup and ask if you'd like to copy the channels from that device. SAY YES...don't scan separately on the second device. Saying yes, you end up with one set of channels on both tuners, already merged.

If you later need to rescan, like you know there is additional channels you'd like to receive, the best approach is to delete the channels from all but the first device, then do the scan on the first device, then on the other tuners go through that process I describe above, accepting the option to copy the channel configuration from the existing tuner.

[jcjefferies]

A good place to start is to select the Freesat Only 28.2 ini tuning file when you setup the DVB-S/S2 tuner. That way you only scan the frequencies used by Freesat channels. I dont know if its now included in the NextPVR install but it was created by a member. I originally downloaded it from this Forum somewhere and the file is called "0282 Fresat only (28.2E).ini" and is located in the NextPVR tuning\dvb-s directory. Unfortunately afterwards you have to decide which of the regional variations is the one you want! Kingofsat is a good source if data to help you select the correct channel:-

https://en.kingofsat.net/freqs.php?&pos=...ltre=Clear