Kodi New Flag

[mvallevand]

Kodi v19 is introducing a new feature that matches the New indicator in NextPVR.  https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/16645  Unfortunately they aren't using a flag at this point they are going to be basing it on the original air date.  There are a couple of things that we need to do.  First I'd to confirm that you pass it as is,  which we can assume to be local time (appears to be the case with Schedules Direct)  Kodi needs it converted to UTC

There are lots on anomalies with the SD data (more than half of my database)

- it is the production year for movies (first run meaning first TV broadcast)
- for imported shows like  Coronation Street they can be marked new but the original broadcast date could be two weeks earlier in the UK.
- varies for live events empty for sports, the first broadcast date for many news and talk shows

I think it will be easy enough to fake the original_air_date to be the start_date to handle some issues,  If we don't things like a new episode of "Saturday Night Live" might show 1975-10-11.  

My first question is should we clean up these dates?  If so should it be done in Kodi or NextPVR?  I think Kodi unless you plan on showing this date in your apps.

My second question is after your trip could you add the Live indicator from SD (it might be liveTapeDelay) as a significance.  For me it is much nicer to present live events as new not live.  Emby supports it now (I am faking it for some sports) and I mentioned it to ksooo too and Kodi will likely have new and live flags.  If we don't fake the date in Kodi then they won't show as new so we'd need this as an indicator in the web app to show why

Martin

[sub]

Kodi v19 is introducing a new feature that matches the New indicator in NextPVR.  https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/16645  Unfortunately they aren't using a flag at this point they are going to be basing it on the original air date.  There are a couple of things that we need to do.  First I'd to confirm that you pass it as is,  which we can assume to be local time (appears to be the case with Schedules Direct)  Kodi needs it converted to UTC

There are lots on anomalies with the SD data (more than half of my database)

- it is the production year for movies (first run meaning first TV broadcast)
- for imported shows like  Coronation Street they can be marked new but the original broadcast date could be two weeks earlier in the UK.
- varies for live events empty for sports, the first broadcast date for many news and talk shows

I think it will be easy enough to fake the original_air_date to be the start_date to handle some issues,  If we don't things like a new episode of "Saturday Night Live" might show 1975-10-11.  

My first question is should we clean up these dates?  If so should it be done in Kodi or NextPVR?  I think Kodi unless you plan on showing this date in your apps.

I think it'd be better to try to talking to Ksooo on the Kodi forums, and suggest he lets the EPG source supply the 'New' indicator rather than home calculating it. The average viewer on cares if it's new for them. They don't care if it played in the US or UK 6 months ago etc, it's new to them.

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I've just sent him a message. He may not agree, but at least I tried...

[mvallevand]

If you scroll down the linked thread you will see that I made the suggestion already and the response was "Sure, and that is for another PR." I hate hacks but I like the new flag.

Whatever happens with the original_air_date the live flag is very handy for sports.

Martin

[sub]

Ok, we'll see what he says.

I'm happy to look into adding live when I'm back.

[mvallevand]

Sub did you hear anything?

Martin

[sub]

No, unfortunately he didn't reply.

[mvallevand]

Too bad whatever we do will be a hack. I do like the idea of providing the liveTapeDelay for at least live shows in significance and we can at least fake those dates. Movies will have to wait I think. If you look at zap2it (Emby uses it too) Live shows look much better flagged Live not New

Martin

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I'll try to add live for the next build.

[sub]

Do you think I can get away just flagging it in the significance? That would certainly be the easiest way for me to store it.