Web App and Desktop App have inconsistent information in Pending Recordings

[mvallevand]

I can confirm seeing the same things. Scheduled Burden of Proof and the web server show the recurring information.

Another issue I found is the JSON and XML API isn't sending the recording folder show it shows as default in Kodi even when that is not the case

Marti

[MovieWiz]

Ok, so I will assume that you guys can take it from here. I there is something else you need, let me know.

[mvallevand]

I was thinking about this and modifying a single recording wouldn't make sense except on the final day since I will be overwritten the next update.

Martin

[MovieWiz]

Yes, that's absolutely true. But that doesn't make it less necessary. Listings can change as the recording dates approach. So, in the morning, I will modify the things to make sure all recordings are set properly for that night. Due to signal inconsistency, I will often have duplicates recording on different channels. However, if I am short of tuners (I have 4), I will cancel one to make room for something else. I also use a ramdisk for at least one recording at a time to take pressure off the hard drive.

I also extend the recording times for programs in progress if I see that they started late.

But I can't really do these things in webapp. I have to do them in the desktop app.

One of the biggest strengths of NextPVR is that we have complete control over the recordings and can modify individual recordings to suit our needs. Honestly, it's just fabulous. However, right now, we can't do that in the webapp. And I suspect that this was just an accident/bug -- not on purpose.

[sub]

It was intentional that the web app showed the recurring recording settings. I was trying to remove confusion for users about why they might have changed a setting on an individual recording a couple of days ago, and it appears to be undone when the overnight reschedule happens.

I’m open minded about it, but it’s not clear to me whether I should change this or not. I can certainly see pros and cons both ways

[mvallevand]

I see both sides, as a minimum I think the api should at least have the recording folder. Kodi currently is more NextPVR like and should display the correct information.

Martin

[sub]

Yes, it should have the recording folder. I’ll check this tomorrow

[MovieWiz]

I'd definitely prefer that the pre/post padding to be correct as well.

Yes, I too was a person that was confused the very first time I saw a change "undone".  But that was a one time thing -- a learning curve.  There will always be reasons to make last minute changes to a recording -- it started late and you need to extend the padding -- a drive is getting full and you need to change the drive/directory.  That would seem to be major functionality to lose in order to avoid a one-time confusion.  Again, to me, this complete control we have over the recordings in the desktop app is one of NextPVR's greatest strengths.  It's the biggest reason I won't even consider going back to Plex even though I've paid for it with a lifetime pass.



The whole idea of a DVR is to record what you want so that you can watch it later.  And I haven't seen another DVR program that captures that ideal better than the desktop app does.

[MovieWiz]

To help avoid the "undone" changes confusion, you could put a short warning at the top of the pending recordings in the web app. Something like:

Note that changes to pending items below related to recurring recordings will be overwritten during the next EPG update. Changes that you make today won't be there tomorrow if automatic EPG updates occur overnight.

I'm sure the wording could be improved.

[BrettB]

Yes, I too was a person that was confused the very first time I saw a change "undone".  But that was a one time thing -- a learning curve.  There will always be reasons to make last minute changes to a recording -- it started late and you need to extend the padding -- a drive is getting full and you need to change the drive/directory.  That would seem to be major functionality to lose in order to avoid a one-time confusion.  Again, to me, this complete control we have over the recordings in the desktop app is one of NextPVR's greatest strengths.  It's the biggest reason I won't even consider going back to Plex even though I've paid for it with a lifetime pass.

Is there a reason why you need to use the web interface rather than the native interface (either via the NextPVR.exe or Remote UI client)? The way I see it, the web interface is the "Basic" interface and the others are the "Advanced" interface. Your use case of regularly making one-off changes to specific instances of recurring recordings is something that only a handful of users would do and requires understanding about how the scheduling process works. Hence it is "Advanced" not "Basic". As you said, you had a learning curve about "when" you could make such changes and you adapted to that. And it seems that you also had a learning curve about "where" you could make such changes and you have adapted to that. As you stated, NextPVR provides you the ability to have that sort of "complete control" over the recordings.