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Closed caption issue on one network only

 
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Closed caption issue on one network only
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2021-03-04, 10:18 PM (This post was last modified: 2021-03-04, 10:59 PM by Ricknextpvr.)
I use NextPVR to record OTA programs for the networks.  We've increasingly been noticing a problem with closed captions on our local CBS affiliate - other networks are fine.  Problems include typos, entire sentences of dialog skipped, and delays.

This is for shows like B Positive, SEAL Team, etc.  

I actually contacted a CBS VP in charge of the area and was comparing episodes over time to try and pinpoint when it started, and came across something interesting.  Watching the show with NPVR, I see the issues.  Watching that same file with VLC, and the subtitles are perfect.

So the VLC software is picking up a different track for closed captioning than NPVR.  

Is there a way to alter what track NPVR picks up?


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2021-03-04, 10:37 PM
Is it a CC1 vs CC2 issue or an issue that the correct track isn't rendering well. Typos make me thinking it is a a rendering issue. You probabaly need to place a 5 minute or longer chuck on a cloud drive so we can see the issue.

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2021-03-04, 10:41 PM (This post was last modified: 2021-03-04, 10:42 PM by Ricknextpvr.)
With VLC, it says it's using Closed Captions 1.  I don't know what NPVR uses.  When I try 2, 3, and 4 with VLC, nothing displays.


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2021-03-04, 10:42 PM
It sounds like a rendering issue to me. Which decoders did you try?

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2021-03-04, 10:44 PM (This post was last modified: 2021-03-04, 10:45 PM by Ricknextpvr.)
I am using the LAV decoders.  And, keep in mind, the subtitles are fine for NBC and FOX.  Only CBS has this issue.

I haven't changed anything, I had originally thought it was an issue with CBS changing something, then when I was pulling examples I accidently viewed a current program with VLC, and noted no issue, then viewed it with NPVR, and saw that it was different.
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2021-03-04, 10:46 PM (This post was last modified: 2021-03-04, 10:46 PM by mvallevand.)
If VLC is showing them fine it is a rendering issue and not a broadcast network issue. You didn't provide logs so we can't tell you more then that.

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2021-03-04, 10:47 PM (This post was last modified: 2021-03-04, 10:50 PM by Ricknextpvr.)
Happy to provide logs.  Should I watch part of the show, then stop playback, then create the logs?  Or just send the most current logs (attached)?


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2021-03-04, 11:02 PM
The requested sample would be more helpful than logs.

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2021-03-05, 12:02 AM
Have to figure out how to get a slice of one, and then put it somewhere where I don't have a concern linking to.
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2021-03-05, 03:25 PM
(2021-03-05, 12:02 AM)Ricknextpvr Wrote: Have to figure out how to get a slice of one, and then put it somewhere where I don't have a concern linking to.

Does this help ... https://github.com/sub3/NextPVR/wiki/CutChunk
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