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Windows client hanging when playing recording
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2021-10-03, 04:59 PM
(2021-10-03, 03:03 PM)mvallevand Wrote: I believe the link is in the NextPVR settings but it is here https://github.com/Nevcairiel/LAVFilters/releases You want the 32 bit version even with 64  bit Windows.


I saw 64-bit was installed, so I did install the 32 bit version.... but I still don't see any NextPVR setting to identify LAV.... ??
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2021-10-03, 05:04 PM
You got into NextPVR.exe settings and select it as your Video decoder.

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2021-10-04, 12:10 AM
Quote:Digital broadcasts... if I understand correctly, while NextPVR might be communicating with my SiliconDust tuner, the data may be corrupt (potentially because of lousy reception). Since using something like HDHomeRun would display garbage on the screen, I just assumed the file on my disk would provide that same level of garbage without messing with your code. Does the timestamp come from the tuner, or is it applied by NextPVR as it writes data to the disk?  It just makes me assume the "envelope" should always be good, but the frame content might be bad.
Ultimately if you're seeing garbage in some other player, that'll be the same thing that's in your recording from NextPVR. ie, it's writing an exact copy of whatever it receives from the device. Depending on the decoders etc you're using in NextPVR, they can decide to behave however they want in the presence of broken/missing data. ie, some decoders might show corruption, some might just discard the bad frame and wait for the next good iframe. As I said though, if you signal is that crappy, you're not going to find a decoder that gives you a watchable station.

The timestamp is set by the broadcaster, and is part of the audio/video stream.

Quote:And if the decoder isn't your code, I can understand that a garbage frame could be the source of a decoder "hang". I didn't see a link in settings for LAV, but I'll check out your link and look again.

Just as an aside... while my antenna is really cheap, it is picking up from repeaters on two mountains, and while most stations come in quite well, there are a few that are problematic.  A neighbor has a very expensive antenna and experiences similar issues with those problem stations.
It's also worth noting the compact tuners used in these types of devices are often not as higher quality / larger tuners used in TVs, so you often need an even better signal quality.

Quote:I totally understand that marginal signals are not something NextPVR can do anything about!  As someone who did code in assembly languages for mini-computers in the 70s, I'm often amazed that programs work as well as they do.  Geeze, in those days we used paper tape and punched cards, and miniscule capacity disks were the size of washing machines.

And yes, I am aware the project is a hobby, and I applaud the efforts. "Pretty good, but not perfect"?  Nah, perhaps not perfect, but I would say EXCELLENT!
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2021-10-04, 12:13 AM
(2021-10-03, 05:04 PM)mvallevand Wrote: You got into NextPVR.exe settings and select it as your Video decoder.

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I'd forgotten that there are settings for the client.... I changed all as shown in the attachment, but I didn't see a way to select between 32 or 64 bit versions.  When I installed, it appeared that the 64 bit were on my system already.  Would the x86 versions replace the existing?

Regardless, the client still hangs when playing the bad recording, and I had to terminate the program.


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2021-10-04, 12:17 AM
Since the LAV decoders are listed there, then you have the x86 versions correctly installed.

Yes, the application isn't behaving well with your sample recording. I think the gap in the data is just too big and it's causing issues in the buffering code. Either way though, even without the hang, since you've got a 28 minute gap, you're going to be siitting there for 28 minutes waiting for that next frame to appear, which is probably not what you're hoping for.
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2021-10-06, 01:22 AM
(2021-10-04, 12:17 AM)sub Wrote: Since the LAV decoders are listed there, then you have the x86 versions correctly installed.

Yes, the application isn't behaving well with your sample recording. I think the gap in the data is just too big and it's causing issues in the buffering code. Either way though, even without the hang, since you've got a 28 minute gap, you're going to be siitting there for 28 minutes waiting for that next frame to appear, which is probably not what you're hoping for.

You're right, I wouldn't sit through that kind of gap, but I can't complain about that... it's all related to the lousy signal, and the broadcaster isn't interested hearing it.  It's the program hang that is so bothersome.... not as much for me, but my wife wants me to go back to the ridiculously expensive DirecTV.

Strangely enough, we're watching a recording right now from that same channel... no gaps, no pixelation.  We are, however, seeing the audio get out of sync with the video after clicking the one-minute jump button.
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2021-10-06, 01:26 AM (This post was last modified: 2021-10-06, 01:26 AM by mvallevand.)
Honestly if you are going to have recordings like that and you can't improve reception, your wife is right. A bad signal is often not always bad, and you could watch 50 minutes of the show and loss the ending. Stopping NextPVR from crashing is only part of the solution.

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2021-10-06, 02:13 AM
(2021-10-06, 01:26 AM)mvallevand Wrote: Honestly if you are going to have recordings like that and you can't improve reception, your wife is right.  A bad signal is often not always bad, and you could watch 50 minutes of the show and loss the ending.  Stopping NextPVR from crashing is only part of the solution.

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Nope, not going to spend the $2200US a year for DirecTV... there are alternatives.  OTA is one that obviously is a problem, at least with that channel.  But Paramount+ is the streaming service that offers those same programs, and it only costs $5 a month.  I am still ironing out the wrinkles in cutting the cord.... sometimes it's fun, sometimes it's frustrating, but it does keep my brain working, and that's a good thing!

I've never been to NZ, but I understand it's beautiful.  I have a niece there, and we've never visited.... Have you ever been to the U.S.?
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2021-10-06, 02:15 AM
I've never been to NZ either, you are thinking of sub, the author of NextPVR.

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2021-10-18, 12:22 PM
I've been seeing problems with my ancient HDHomeRun Extend, and while I can explain some of the problems, I'm guessing the unit is simply giving up the ghost. So I ordered a new HDHomeRun Plex 4K. No, I don't expect that to solve all my problems, but I'm hoping it will help.

I appreciate the dialog!
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