Version 6.1.4 initial install problems

[Rich A]

I just switched over to the large display and brought up the NPVR "settings" image  there,  and dropped the screen res down to 1920 x 1080 and HOLY COW .. There's the missing controls on the bottom of the settings image.  BTW that "settings" image is a "fixed" res and can not be blown up or down in size so if you have just the "wrong" display res - it could over-fill the display and have the bottom cut of.  I feel sooooooo dumb right now.  Beers are on me !  <grin>  Let me see if I can now get some changes made.  The MISSING Control buttons are circled.  Geeshhhh I knda feel sorta "stupid".   Duh !

In fairness to you, it's an application problem that was stopping you from seeing this.

It's not a fixed resolution. The screen is set to scale, and for most people it does. A small number have had this issue over the last 10+ years though, and I'm not sure of the reason.

I'm running two 27" monitors at 150%, and one 24" monitor at 100%. The scaling works fine on my screens.

Thank you.   At the risk of tuning this "topic" into a major epic <grin> should I continue with the original problem (which is still unsolved)? or start a new thread?    

I still have two MAJOR issues, 1. the playback problems with freezing, stuttering and lockup etc.)   and 2. a really bad problem with the program "navigation" or item selection errors.  #2 is making it almost impossible to actually get my wanted events option applied to the correct item.  

SO FAR now that I can actually change the "Settings" codec page options it hasn't helped at all.   AND best I can tell every show that has been recorded shows NO info about the codec that was used.   ALL the  NextPVR recordings have the codec info "blank".  However other videos that I have moved over to this PC that were not recorded by NPVR DO all show their full video codec name and version number.  I think in an earlier comment  mvallevand   might be correct.   LOOKS like the LAV codec isn't installed.  BUT it IS, as when I play  any "non NextPVR generated video" the media player shows all the codec data.  But when I play a show recorded by  NextPVR with the same 3rd party media player the codec data field is BLANK.  Only NextPVR generated video is lacking any codec data but all other videos do show the codec data.. 

So we started to mess with "codecs" originally to make sure the LAV codec was working.  Still looking for some kind of stand alone utility that can find and display all the codecs being used in a windows 11 op system.   At this point I only have the Media player option available for testing. 

Still living with video playback problems... Sigh   What's next ?

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SO FAR now that I can actually change the "Settings" codec page options it hasn't helped at all. AND best I can tell every show that has been recorded shows NO info about the codec that was used.   ALL the  NextPVR recordings have the codec info "blank".  However other videos that I have moved over to this PC that were not recorded by NPVR DO all show their full video codec name and version number. 

FYI, these decoders are not used during recording. They're a playback thing. They have no effect whatsoever on recordings. (in your setup, the encoding is done by the broadcaster, and NextPVR is just dumping the data from your HDHomeRun to disk unmodified)

It sounds like maybe you're viewing the properties of a video file, and looking at the Details tab? That is entirely normal. I wouldn't expect to see anything useful in there. Windows might populate some info, like maybe duration and bitrate. Anything else like Publisher or Encoder or anything like that should probably be blank. It's unlikely Windows can extract any info like that from .ts files. It's more likely to be able to get this information from other file types like .mp3/.mp4/.mkv etc, where they have a header which contains data like this. There is no equivalent data in a .ts file (but also nothing particularly useful in that data, so you can entirely ignore that Details page).

EDIT: changed to "HDHomeRun"...initially thought you were using a "Colossus2"

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I still have two MAJOR issues, 1. the playback problems with freezing, stuttering and lockup etc.) and 2. a really bad problem with the program "navigation" or item selection errors. #2 is making it almost impossible to actually get my wanted events option applied to the correct item.

You'll need to give us a better description of this. This is very vague.

For example (focusing on #1 first), now that you've your decoders set in NextPVR.exe, if you try playing a recording in that app, and just start playback and watch (ie, not skipping around etc), does it play smoothly?

[Rich A]

I still have two MAJOR issues, 1. the playback problems with freezing, stuttering and lockup etc.)  and 2. a really bad problem with the program "navigation" or item selection errors.  #2 is making it almost impossible to actually get my wanted events option applied to the correct item. 

You'll need to give us a better description of this. This is very vague.

For example (focusing on #1 first), now that you've your decoders set in NextPVR.exe, if you try playing a recording in that app, and just start playback and watch (ie, not skipping around etc), does it play smoothly?

My thought was to just summarize those two issues, but for my sanity would like to just deal with the playback issue at this time. 
  
Upon starting a show that has completed it's recording and is in one of the lists of shows.  First time starting it to watch there are multiple things that can happen.  

1. It starts instantly, and begins to play smoothly at the onset. No problems occur during the whole playback to it's end.  This is RARE and only happens maybe 10 percent of the time.

2. It starts to play, but video and audio is stuttering badly for a minimum of 2 seconds to a max of about 30 seconds. ( think it may have gone over a minute but not sure cuz I never wait any longer than a minute and usually quit the process and try again)  When the stuttering stops playback is normal BUT problems with stuttering and complete freezing of the video occur often during and to the end.  This happens maybe 90 percent of the time.

Sometimes if the video has started and is stuttering for a long time, I can cancel the process and then start a new playback of that same  show right away, and it will THEN start right up with NO delay or stuttering and play smoothly .. (but in ALL cases after a while the playback problems will come back)  

How do we KNOW the LAV code is working ??   All the NextPVR video here is being recorded at 1280 x 720 at 59.94 FPS.  Most of my videos I see on other PCs etc. is usually either 23 or 29 fps?   Is that 60 fps unusual for what we are doing here?

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2. It starts to play, but video and audio is stuttering badly for a minimum of 2 seconds to a max of about 30 seconds. ( think it may have gone over a minute but not sure cuz I never wait any longer than a minute and usually quit the process and try again)  When the stuttering stops playback is normal BUT problems with stuttering and complete freezing of the video occur often during and to the end.  This happens maybe 90 percent of the time.

How high is the CPU usage on the machine when this happens?

Restart this NextPVR, and reproduce this in as few a steps as possible, then post the logs, and I'll take a look.

How do we KNOW the LAV code is working ??  

When you post the logs, I'll confirm for you that the LAV decoders are being used for playback.

All the NextPVR video here is being recorded at 1280 x 720 at 59.94 FPS.  Most of my videos I see on other PCs etc. is usually either 23 or 29 fps?   Is that 60 fps unusual for what we are doing here?

They'll be whatever resolution and frame rate your broadcaster chose to encode at.

Broadcast TV in the US is typically either at 59.94 or 29.97 fps. They use a variety of resolutions, but 1280x720 and 1920x1080 are the most common these days.

1280x720 at 59.94 is entirely normal, and one of the most common combinations used in US broadcast TV.

[Rich A]

Okay got it all, thanks.  Will do as requested.  I'll be back later today with the logs.

<edit>  Opps sri, forgot this.   Right now the HTPC has two active tuners in use recorrding shows.
CPU is averaging around 35 to 40 percent constant
Memory is using 3.2 of available 7.8 GB (41 percent)
NIC is working at 8.9 Mbts  (recording 2 hd channels oif HomeRun Prime 3 tuners.

[mvallevand]

During your testing I'd be curious to know if turning off closed captioning helps.

Martin

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During your testing I'd be curious to know if turning off closed captioning helps.

Yes, if you've got these enabled, let us know if disabling captions helps

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Opps sri, forgot this.   Right now the HTPC has two active tuners in use recorrding shows.
CPU is averaging around 35 to 40 percent constant
Memory is using 3.2 of available 7.8 GB (41 percent)
NIC is working at 8.9 Mbts  (recording 2 hd channels oif HomeRun Prime 3 tuners.

When you're testing stuttering/freezing from simply starting playback, make sure you do it with no recordings happening. (so we can focus on the playback itself, without worrying about other things interfering)

[Rich A]

Yee

Opps sri, forgot this.   Right now the HTPC has two active tuners in use recorrding shows.
CPU is averaging around 35 to 40 percent constant
Memory is using 3.2 of available 7.8 GB (41 percent)
NIC is working at 8.9 Mbts  (recording 2 hd channels oif HomeRun Prime 3 tuners.

When you're testing stuttering/freezing from simply starting playback, make sure you do it with no recordings happening. (so we can focus on the playback itself, without worrying about other things interfering)

Yeah I considered that.  Unfortunately the HTPC is right in the middle of a few hour period of heavy recording.  A couple long sporting events.  Only about a hour left.   My team is having a horrible year so far.  I'd cancel the recording but am hoping for a "rare win" for a change.   Sorry.