capture cards supporting nonfree DVB-T channels in Sweden?

[jasjol]

Does anyone use a DVB-T capture card where you also can see channels you subscribe for?

I live in Sweden.

[sub]

Unfortunately there is no CAM support, but you might be able to get these extra channels via a multidec plugin. (actually I know you can, but you'd probably need a phoenix smartcard reader also)

[7ore]

Fire DTV or Floppy DTV would work.
They have a smartcard reader built in. You can even use your Boxer-card without any CI-module.

I would think that the channels is unscrambled when they reach GBpvr. But I'm not sure.

What do you say about that Sub??

I have to look into that multidec tip. Sounds like the tool I've been searching for as well.

[sub]

I've never seen seen any multidec plugins that would access a smartcard reader on a Fire DTV or Floppy DTV. I'm fairly sure they dont exist. That would require native CI support. People usually have to use a separate Phoenix reader or similar hardware.

Please remember though, I dont want GB-PVR forums become a haven for discussing hacking of pay tv etc, so please be careful what you post or you may find your post deleted.

[7ore]

I have a original pay-card I just want to use that to see (and record programs) with GB-PVR. Nothing illegal here, not even remotly so.

But to return to Floppy DTV, that is a tv-card with a built-in card-reader (that is mounted in a slot for the floppy-disc). You insert your Boxer-card (the one you paid for, the dvb-t supplier in Sweden) and use it to see the channels included in your subscription.
My guess is that this way you do have access to all your subscripted channels.

I have not tried it though.

[sub]

But to return to Floppy DTV, that is a tv-card with a built-in card-reader (that is mounted in a slot for the floppy-disc). You insert your Boxer-card (the one you paid for, the dvb-t supplier in Sweden) and use it to see the channels included in your subscription.
My guess is that this way you do have access to all your subscripted channels.

Yes, I understand what you're suggesting, but its not that simple. For this to work GB-PVR has to have built in support CAM modules, but it doesnt (quite a bit of work involved, GB-PVR needs to pass special info to CAM for it to function).

The only alternative to using CAM modules is to use multidec plugins. These plugins typically use standalone card readers to interact with your subscription card. I'm not aware of any multidec plugins that will let you use the card reader on your Floppy DTV.

I have not tried it though.

Trust me, it wont work with by simply inserting your card in your FlopyDTV.

[7ore]

OK, I just wondered. I myself, has a Pinnacle 310i and will try to get multidec to work.
Seems to be a lot to read before I can get it there.

[unilsson]

Hi,

sub is spot-on.

I just tried a FireDTV-box together with a separate Phoenix card reader to view encrypted Swedish DVB-T (Boxer) channels. In addition you need a softcam and an appropriate MDplugin for GBPVR. I do not currently have any other DVB-T cards or USB sticks to try but the procedure is general.

I know from other forums on the net that webmasters may not like discussions about softcams in their forums since such software can be used for e.g. card sharing.

:confused: Is there a policy for this forum (yet) on this topic? :confused:

I would argue that a set up that enables people to view encrypted channels in GBPVR is perfectly legal as long as no additional card sharing activities are going on.

[sub]

I know from other forums on the net that webmasters may not like discussions about softcams in their forums since such software can be used for e.g. card sharing.

Is there a policy for this forum (yet) on this topic?

I've said in a few posts that I dont want GB-PVR to become a haven for discussion illegal paytv hacking, but I dont necessarily mind discussion which is lite on details, or doesnt blatently discuss pirating TV. There are plenty of other forums on the net where people can go to discuss this type of stuff.

If I see posts that take this type of discussion too far, or start posting links to multidec plugins etc, then I'll start deleting posts.

In my mind there are valid uses of this type of technology, which are doing little more than using a valid subscription smartcard and helping you record on your PC what you could normally record via your VCR - ok, I realise this doesnt make it legal, but its seems different to me than downloading keys of the internet and not having a smartcard etc.

[7ore]

OK, I'll se if I can keep this "clean".
In my early tests, my GB-pvr crashed an even if it works well in all other aspects, the mdapifilter icon won't show.
So this is tested in MediaPortal, but as the procedure is the same it should work in GB-Pvr as well.
So beside the mdapi filter-files you need to have a Boxer card (orginal), a reader that can be set in phoenix-mode (I use mp3.5) a cardserver (newcs 1.20 RC13) and yankse 1.3
If they are set up properly, it will work.