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Still problems converting dvr-ms files to Mpeg

 
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Still problems converting dvr-ms files to Mpeg
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2008-05-03, 02:28 AM
Ok so a couple of days ago i posted this post
http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php?t=35082

as i said i got it to work 1 time, so i was able to convert a dvr-ms file to mpeg but now it does the same thing as before (No more converting and just hangs when it gets to a certian size)

Not sure if anyone can help, please share any experiences you might have, also have tried a number of 3rd party conversion software like mcebuddy.

They dont seem to work either.

I am however able to use both the ATI and Cyberlink muxes to produce recordings with no hitch there except the ATI mux does not produce recordings that are stutter free, and the Cyberlink Mux produces a much better recording, although the DVR-MS recordings are the best and would like to just be able to convert those files to get the best playback possible.

PLease please please help, i love this program and i would like to fix this one last issue. I would be glad to help anyone in return and share my experiences

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2008-05-03, 02:35 AM
This problem is pretty common for when trying to convert HD ATSC .dvr-ms recordings to .mpg files. The Cyberlink mux often chokes when trying to remux high definition ATSC streams. Its not really a problem I have any control over.

Quote:I am however able to use both the ATI and Cyberlink muxes to produce recordings with no hitch there except the ATI mux does not produce recordings that are stutter free, and the Cyberlink Mux produces a much better recording, although the DVR-MS recordings are the best and would like to just be able to convert those files to get the best playback possible.
You're probably best to just record directly with the Cyberlink mux if it produces pretty decent results. Even if the Cyberlink mux wasnt choking when trying to convert from .dvr-ms to .mpg, I'm sure you'd end up with recordings no better than if you'd recorded directly to .mpg. (ie it'd introduce timing problems doing the conversion)
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2008-05-03, 02:42 AM
Thanks Sub

well I was thinking that might be the case and thanks for the quick response. I am still pretty new to all this, and i am very impressed with your program, by far the best of them all.

Also just wondering is it pretty common to get out of sinc recordings with .ts, mine are always like that, and

Are the deinterlacing setting inportant to playback i seem to get different results with each of them but not sure what they are actually doing.
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2008-05-03, 02:46 AM
imagn Wrote:Also just wondering is it pretty common to get out of sinc recordings with .ts, mine are always like that, and
Yes, there are some known issues with playback of .ts files (which was new to 1.2.x). I'll look into it for 1.3.x.

Quote:Are the deinterlacing setting inportant to playback i seem to get different results with each of them but not sure what they are actually doing.
Are you talking about the deinterlacing setting on the Misc tab of the config app? That should always be left on 'encoder pass-through'.
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2008-05-03, 02:50 AM
Yes i am talking about the settings in the config app,

Thanks for the info
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2008-05-03, 09:15 PM
sub Wrote:You're probably best to just record directly with the Cyberlink mux if it produces pretty decent results.

Yeah, if you can record straight to mpeg with the Cyberlink mux, hang onto it and don't let it go. As with many/most ATSC people, Cyberlink mux makes my recordings out of sync. Tried different versions of the mux, too. And ATI mux either works perfectly or pretty much destroys the file and I never know which one to expect when I press Play.

TS and DVR-MS record fine, and after trying many (but not all) muxer programs to turn them into mpeg, VideoReDo is the only program that would keep the files in sync. A search here will find that statement echoed by many. It's a nice little editor too. Good program.

If you're messing around with automated file conversions, Stattik's Mencoder script is probably the way to go if you don't want GBPVR to transcode ALL files. It can take a little time to set up properly, but once it's setup you're all set.

I'm probably like most people who, after adding a bigger hard drive, stopped converting most things other than stuff to be archived to DVD, and since archived stuff needs to be as perfect as possible, I do it outside of GBPVR with other programs.
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2008-05-04, 01:35 AM
i think it's the problem with 60fps..cyberlink doesn't handle it very well at all..
29.97 no problem...but 60hz trips it up and it usually only spits out 30fps for hd on everything i've tried...[skipping every other frame] leading to bad sync and stutter...almost like it's limited to 30fps...codec,mux,everything cyberlink..
[newest,newest ver. may be different]

check the fps on your output files...the ati should produce good output[60fps], but since it's 60fps, your system may be choking on the extra bandwidth needed to playback....

what video card,decoder?
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2008-05-04, 01:43 AM
pBS Wrote:i think it's the problem with 60fps..cyberlink doesn't handle it very well at all..
29.97 no problem...but 60hz trips it up and it usually only spits out 30fps for hd on everything i've tried...[skipping every other frame] leading to bad sync and stutter...almost like it's limited to 30fps...codec,mux,everything cyberlink..
[newest,newest ver. may be different]
I dont know if you've tested it in the latested release, but if you have the 'use cached sequence headers' option enabled, its possible the Cyberlink mux will work better than it has in the past. Its only a guess though - pretty hard to test from here.
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2008-05-04, 04:47 AM
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The only reason i originally was trying to convert dvr-ms files were for compatibility reasons with some non MS devices like the Popcornhour, and just to make things a little easier. I am also getting some weird playback issue when streaming to my laptop (Green pixelated lines at the very top of the video). This is weird as non of my other computers seem to have this problem with the Mpeg files only the laptop, and only through WMP11 or zoomplayer, when playing through VLC everything is fine.

Overall i think the suggestion to record directly to Mpeg with Cyberlink mux seems to be what i am going to be doing.
Also a weird thing is when i convert the Mpeg file to avi then i no longer get the playback issue.

It baffels me as to what it could be

Oh well atleast i have some way of recording Mpeg files.
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2008-05-04, 05:21 PM
pBS Wrote:i think it's the problem with 60fps..cyberlink doesn't handle it very well at all..

Could be a factor. For me, the CW network is by far the one that goes out of sync the most and the worst, and that broadcasts 1080i.

I kept fighting with it in the past because Mencoder wouldn't work with dvr-ms but would with .ts, but GBPVR didn't fully like .ts. But now GBPVR mostly likes .ts and VideoRedo can convert dvr-ms if needed, so either one is workable.

Still have live TV go out of sync the longer it's been on, with the worst being the CW network, but oh well.
I bet Michael Bay uses GBPVR because it's awesome:
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