Live TV exits backto main menu

[SLR_65]

Hi Sub,

I have been playing with GBPVR with a 40gb Western Digital EIDE drive and all has worked fine. I've formatted the drive and installed Windows Vista Ultimate a few times as I've been playing and I've never failed to get GBPVR up and running.

Tonight my Seagate 750gb SATAII replacement drive arrived and I installed it and loaded Vista Ultimate on it. Everything went fine and Internet Explorer, Media Player, and Media Center all seem to work fine. I've not installed anything else - no firewall, no virus protection, etc.. Just a clean bare install.

I loaded up GBPVR and when I hit Live TV it tries to ge to it - I get a black screen for a few seconds and then it just exits back to the main menu.

I tried to reload windows again and then reloaded GBPVR again and got the exact same result.

The only difference in the system is the swap of a 40gb Western Digital EIDE drive for a Seagate 750gb SATA II drive . . . could the Sata drive or drivers be a problem? Any suggestions where to start?

Attached are my log files.

Thanks!

Steve

[whurlston]

Does your C:\Temp folder exist? If not, you need to create it.

[sub]

If you enable live preview mode does it start working?

Does the live tv buffer directory specified in the config app exist (c:\temp)?

[SLR_65]

No, it did not exist. I created it and now I can get the live tv to come on, but it's very slow and channel changes are extremely slow and the picture jitters around.

This is all quite perplexing, the only hardware difference is the removal of the 40gb ide drive and the addition of the 750gb SATA drive. Why would that make it not install the c:Temp directory? Why would the drive affect the playback and channel changing speed?

Strange, very strange.

It may be another bad drive as I've had two bad ones already, but this one is quiet and formatted and loaded up fine and is running all other programs flawlessly 9though i haven't ran many for any length of time).

THANKS for your help!

Steve

[sub]

Did you enable live preview mode? This has much quicker channel change times.

[SLR_65]

I just enabled the live preview mode and that made a world of difference!

However . . . the video was stuttering pretty bad. I noticed there was a deinterlacing option below the preview mode selection so I moved it down to ffdshow and that's made it much better. In live motion on tv I don't see any stutters and on CNN the ticker is fluid for quite a while, then just occasionally a couple jitters, then back moving fluid for quite a while.

Why would the changing of a hard drive affect all of this? With the IDE drive "it just worked". The SATA drive is a SATA II 3.0 drive so it should be faster than the IDE, shouldn't it?

Just curious as it went so well with the IDE drives and I did it several times so I thought setup tonight would be a snap.

I'm kinda wondering if using the 40gb IDE for the system and program files and the SATA just for data backup wouldn't be a bad idea . . . do IDE and SATA drives play well together???

THANKS!!!

Steve

[sub]

The deinterlacing setting should be left on 'encoder pass through'. If you find you get some stuttering, then you probably need to change the decoders you're using.

Why would the changing of a hard drive affect all of this? With the IDE drive "it just worked". The SATA drive is a SATA II 3.0 drive so it should be faster than the IDE, shouldn't it?

Its unlikely to be the drive (unless you have some serious machine problems going on). You probably had live preview enabled on the last hard drive, since its the default. Any difference in video quality probably relates to different decoders being used to your old setup.

[SLR_65]

The deinterlacing setting should be left on 'encoder pass through'. If you find you get some stuttering, then you probably need to change the decoders you're using.

Its unlikely to be the drive (unless you have some serious machine problems going on). You probably had live preview enabled on the last hard drive, since its the default. Any difference in video quality probably relates to different decoders being used to your old setup.

This is strange. I'm going to have to dig into it more tomorrow as I gotta get to bed right now.

Basically though the ONLY thing that's been changed is the drive. I'm using the exact same machine with no other hardware changes. I loaded Windows Vista Ultimate from the same DVD (both were fresh installs of Vista). and I'm loading the same version of GBPVR so the only variable is the drive. Beyond that it's the same hardware and the same software so it doesn't make any sense to me why I'm getting such different results . . . why wouldn't GBPVR setup install the c:\Temp folder on the new drive but it would on the old one????

Strange . . .

I'll install the old drive tomorrow to see if the live preview was enabled or not.

I may see if I can run on the EIDE drive for the programs and just use the SATA for storage.

Back tomorrow with updates on my finding . . . g'night!

Steve

[sub]

why wouldn't GBPVR setup install the c:\Temp folder on the new drive but it would on the old one????

It doesnt create this directory. If it existing on your old install, then you must have manually created it. The install expects that the user is going to go into the config app and set the directory to somewhere that exists, or for them manually to create the c:\temp directory.

The next release gives the user a warning if the specified directory doesnt exist.

[SLR_65]

It doesnt create this directory. If it existing on your old install, then you must have manually created it. The install expects that the user is going to go into the config app and set the directory to somewhere that exists, or for them manually to create the c:\temp directory.

The next release gives the user a warning if the specified directory doesnt exist.

That's really interesting as I know I didn't create the c:\temp directory on the old install. I do run the config program but I left everything at it's defaults as far as directories and stuff as I figured it would create them if it needed to, in fact I thought I saw that as an option somewhere (something like create recording directory if it doesn't exist).

I've basically just installed Vista and let it update online. Vista has drivers for my motherboard (Asus m2npv-vm) so I don't have to load anything else during install. When it updates it does update some Nvidea drivers, but it did that too on the old drive (I kept notes). Then I install my PVR-150 card. It installs a Vista driver and I can't seem to stop it from doing that as it doesn't ask if I want to, it just says it's doing it. Then I plug in the remote control to the USB and it installs the remote driver from Vista. Now if I install GBPVR with all the defaults at this point on the old drive it runs just fine - no creating the c:\temp directory, no lagging channel changes that require me to change an option in config, no jerky motion on live TV, etc. It just works. It does have a problem though - it has a timestamp issue on recordings. Installing the Hauppauge driver (and nothing else, just the driver) fixes that and it works fine. On subsequent reinstalls while I was playing with it I would load Vista and then load the Hauppauge drivers before loading up GBPVR and that worked fine.

Following these steps on the new SATA drive though doesn't give the same results . . . I have to manually create the c:\Temp directory, I have to set the immediate TV option in the config, and the video on live TV doesn't work well unless I switch the deinterlace from passthrough to one of the other two options (both the other options seems to help a lot with the problem).

The only variable here is the drive - it's the same hardware, same software, same procedure used to load the software, same codecs, same everything. The difference is one uses a 40gb Western Digital EIDE drive and one install uses a 750gb Seagate SATA drive, but for the life of me I can't see how that would affect GBPVR's install. It's very strange. I'll take a nap when I get home (I was up too late last night messing with it!) and then give it a go again tonight.

Take Care,

Steve