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device rule for HVR-1250 not working

device rule for HVR-1250 not working
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#1
2012-08-16, 09:25 AM
Since adding analog to the mix here, I've had a couple of recordings report "Device Failed to start". This time I decided to investigate, and realized NPVR had tried to use my HVR-1250 for both digital and analog at the same time. I thought I'd seen an entry in DeviceRules.xml that should have handled it, but on closer inspection that rule was for a DVB device and used slightly different device names. So without further ado, here is a rule for the HVR-1250:
Code:
        <!-- Hauppauge 885 (HVR-1250)-->
        <Filter name="Hauppauge WinTV 885 BDA Tuner/Demod" resource="Hauppauge 885" />
        <Filter name="Hauppauge WinTV 885 Video Capture" resource="Hauppauge 885" />

I don't know if this rule should be in the standard file distributed with NPVR or not - I don't know if this rule might break some other hauppauge device that actually does have two tuners like the HVR-1850 or HVR-1600.
server: NextPVR 5.0.7/Win10 2004/64-bit/AMD A6-7400k/hvr-2250 & hvr-1250/Winegard Flatwave antenna/Schedules Direct
main client: NextPVR 5.0.7 Desktop Client; LG 50UH5500 WebOS 3.0 TV
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2012-08-16, 09:51 AM (This post was last modified: 2012-08-16, 10:05 AM by johnsonx42.)
ok, this started as just a information thread for anyone else with an HVR-1250, but the rule I added didn't have any effect so I guess now it's a support thread. I created a conflict on the HVR-1250 to test the rule, but NPVR still tried to use the HVR-1250 twice; I started recordings on all tuners first, then asked for livetv on an analog channel - there should have been no tuners available:
Code:
2012-08-16 02:31:32.135    [DEBUG][12]    StartStream(7077:USA)
2012-08-16 02:31:32.135    [DEBUG][12]    looking for capture source
2012-08-16 02:31:32.135    [DEBUG][12]    checking: Hauppauge WinTV 885 BDA Tuner/Demod     (QAM)
2012-08-16 02:31:32.135    [DEBUG][12]    enabled and present
2012-08-16 02:31:32.135    [DEBUG][12]    does not have channel
2012-08-16 02:31:32.135    [DEBUG][12]    checking: WinTV HVR-950 BDA Tuner     (ATSC)
2012-08-16 02:31:32.135    [DEBUG][12]    enabled and present
2012-08-16 02:31:32.135    [DEBUG][12]    does not have channel
2012-08-16 02:31:32.135    [DEBUG][12]    checking: USB 2883 Device
2012-08-16 02:31:32.135    [DEBUG][12]    enabled and present
2012-08-16 02:31:32.135    [DEBUG][12]    has channel
2012-08-16 02:31:32.136    [DEBUG][12]    live tv is not possible
**2012-08-16 02:31:32.136    [DEBUG][12]    checking: Hauppauge WinTV 885 Video Capture
2012-08-16 02:31:32.136    [DEBUG][12]    enabled and present
2012-08-16 02:31:32.136    [DEBUG][12]    has channel
**2012-08-16 02:31:32.136    [DEBUG][12]    live tv is possible
2012-08-16 02:31:32.136    [INFO][12]    AnalogRecorder.StartStream(LIVE&C:\LiveTV\live-USA-5945.ts)
2012-08-16 02:31:32.136    [INFO][12]    AnalogRecorder stream count now 1
2012-08-16 02:31:32.136    [INFO][12]    Creating graph
2012-08-16 02:31:32.138    [DEBUG][12]    Building graph using: Hauppauge WinTV 885 Video Capture (1)
2012-08-16 02:31:32.238    [DEBUG][12]    about to look for encoder
2012-08-16 02:31:32.250    [DEBUG][12]    About to look for hardware encoder.
2012-08-16 02:31:32.250    [DEBUG][12]    AttachHardEncoder@1
2012-08-16 02:31:32.250    [DEBUG][12]    AttachHardEncoder@2 (got medium)
2012-08-16 02:31:32.313    [DEBUG][12]    Hardware encoder not found. Attempting to fall back to software encoder.
2012-08-16 02:31:32.313    [DEBUG][12]    SetCaptureResolution()
2012-08-16 02:31:32.313    [DEBUG][12]    NTSC tuner
2012-08-16 02:31:32.314    [DEBUG][12]    0:  720x480 (subtype: {32595559-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71})
2012-08-16 02:31:32.314    [DEBUG][12]    1:  720x576 (subtype: {32595559-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71})
2012-08-16 02:31:32.314    [DEBUG][12]    selected: 0:  720x480 (subtype: {32595559-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71})
2012-08-16 02:31:32.332    [DEBUG][12]    about to add mux
2012-08-16 02:31:32.332    [DEBUG][12]    about to add tee
2012-08-16 02:31:32.332    [DEBUG][12]    about to connect writers
2012-08-16 02:31:32.340    [DEBUG][12]    Graph filter list:
2012-08-16 02:31:32.341    [DEBUG][12]     - NPVR Writer2
2012-08-16 02:31:32.341    [DEBUG][12]     - NPVR Writer
2012-08-16 02:31:32.341    [DEBUG][12]     - Infinite Pin Tee Filter
2012-08-16 02:31:32.341    [DEBUG][12]     - MainConcept (HCW) MPEG Multiplexer-Plus
2012-08-16 02:31:32.341    [DEBUG][12]     - MainConcept (HCW) Layer II Audio Encoder
2012-08-16 02:31:32.341    [DEBUG][12]     - MainConcept (HCW) MPEG-2 Video Encoder
2012-08-16 02:31:32.341    [DEBUG][12]     - Hauppauge WinTV 885 Video Capture
2012-08-16 02:31:32.341    [DEBUG][12]     - Hauppauge WinTV 885 Crossbar
2012-08-16 02:31:32.341    [DEBUG][12]     - Hauppauge WinTV 885 TvAudio
2012-08-16 02:31:32.341    [DEBUG][12]     - Hauppauge WinTV 885 Tuner
2012-08-16 02:31:32.341    [DEBUG][12]    About to check crossbar routing
2012-08-16 02:31:32.418    [DEBUG][12]    Audio crossbar routed successfully
2012-08-16 02:31:32.418    [DEBUG][12]    Video crossbar already routed correctly
2012-08-16 02:31:32.418    [DEBUG][12]    Tuning to channel: 28
2012-08-16 02:31:32.619    [DEBUG][12]    Tuner reports frequency: 247250000
2012-08-16 02:31:32.619    [INFO][12]    About to start graph
2012-08-16 02:31:32.619    [DEBUG][12]    Setting top field first
2012-08-16 02:31:32.619    [DEBUG][12]    Setting encoder video format to NTSC
**2012-08-16 02:31:33.123    [ERROR][12]    Device failed to start
2012-08-16 02:31:33.123    [DEBUG][12]    Removing filter  NPVR Writer2
2012-08-16 02:31:33.123    [DEBUG][12]    Removing filter  NPVR Writer
2012-08-16 02:31:33.124    [DEBUG][12]    Removing filter  Infinite Pin Tee Filter
2012-08-16 02:31:33.124    [DEBUG][12]    Removing filter  MainConcept (HCW) MPEG Multiplexer-Plus
2012-08-16 02:31:33.124    [DEBUG][12]    Removing filter  MainConcept (HCW) Layer II Audio Encoder
2012-08-16 02:31:33.125    [DEBUG][12]    Removing filter  MainConcept (HCW) MPEG-2 Video Encoder
2012-08-16 02:31:33.125    [DEBUG][12]    Removing filter  Hauppauge WinTV 885 Video Capture
2012-08-16 02:31:33.126    [DEBUG][12]    Removing filter  Hauppauge WinTV 885 Crossbar
2012-08-16 02:31:33.126    [DEBUG][12]    Removing filter  Hauppauge WinTV 885 TvAudio
2012-08-16 02:31:33.126    [DEBUG][12]    Removing filter  Hauppauge WinTV 885 Tuner
**2012-08-16 02:31:33.127    [ERROR][12]    Unable to StartStream(): Device failed to start
2012-08-16 02:31:33.127    [DEBUG][12]    checking: BDA 2883 TVTuner     (ATSC)
2012-08-16 02:31:33.127    [DEBUG][12]    checking: BDA 2883 TVTuner     (QAM)
2012-08-16 02:31:33.127    [DEBUG][12]    checking: IPTV Device
2012-08-16 02:31:33.127    [DEBUG][12]    checking: Hauppauge WinTV 885 BDA Tuner/Demod     (ATSC)
2012-08-16 02:31:33.127    [DEBUG][12]    checking: WinTV HVR-950 BDA Tuner     (QAM)
2012-08-16 02:31:33.128    [DEBUG][12]    checking: WinTV HVR-950 Capture

I also tried recording on the same channel, and it tried to start the recording then failed rather than saying no tuners available.

It seems like there was a problem awhile ago with some part of NRecord not processing DeviceRules.xml properly... is this broken again? Or have I done something wrong?

Here's my DeviceRules.xml with my HVR-1250 section added:
Code:
<Rules>
    <SharedNames>
        <!-- Hauppauge 88x family -->
        <Filter name="Hauppauge WinTV 88x DVB-S/S2 Tuner/Demod" resource="Hauppauge 88x" />
        <Filter name="Hauppauge WinTV 88x DVB-S Tuner/Demod" resource="Hauppauge 88x" />
        <Filter name="Hauppauge WinTV 88x DVB-T Tuner/Demod" resource="Hauppauge 88x" />
        <Filter name="Hauppauge WinTV 88x Video Capture" resource="Hauppauge 88x" />

        <!-- Hauppauge HVR-22xx family -->
        <Filter name="Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture" resource="Hauppauge 22xx" />
        <Filter name="Hauppauge WinTV-7164 BDA DVBT Tuner" resource="Hauppauge 22xx" />
        <Filter name="Hauppauge WinTV-7164 BDA ATSC/QAM Tuner" resource="Hauppauge 22xx" />    

        <!-- Hauppauge HVR USB2 -->
        <Filter name="Hauppauge HVR USB2 BDA Tuner/Demod" resource="Hauppauge HVR USB2" />
        <Filter name="Hauppauge HVR USB2 Video Capture" resource="Hauppauge HVR USB2" />        
        
        <!-- Hauppauge 885 (HVR-1250)-->
        <Filter name="Hauppauge WinTV 885 BDA Tuner/Demod" resource="Hauppauge 885" />
        <Filter name="Hauppauge WinTV 885 Video Capture" resource="Hauppauge 885" />
    </SharedNames>
</Rules>
server: NextPVR 5.0.7/Win10 2004/64-bit/AMD A6-7400k/hvr-2250 & hvr-1250/Winegard Flatwave antenna/Schedules Direct
main client: NextPVR 5.0.7 Desktop Client; LG 50UH5500 WebOS 3.0 TV
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#3
2012-08-18, 08:50 AM
well nevermind about this (not that anyone seemed to be minding anyhow...).

I just upgraded my HTPC; I'm now running an Athlon II X3-440 CPU (triple core, 3.1ghz vs my old dual core 2Ghz), and an HVR-2250 has displaced my trusty HVR-1250 in the lone PCIe x1 slot on my mobo.

The rules for the 2250 (WinTV-7164) already in DeviceRules.xml work perfectly with this card, so I have no idea why the lines I added for the HVR-1250 didn't work. I'm no longer in a position to troubleshoot it anyhow.

Thanks sub, it was super easy to configure the channels on my new card; even though my HVR-1250 was no longer present, it properly copied the QAM channels it had over to the new 2250 tuners, and likewise copied my analog channels without trouble. I was thinking I might still have to merge them, but nope, it had properly merged them all too. Nice, very polished.
server: NextPVR 5.0.7/Win10 2004/64-bit/AMD A6-7400k/hvr-2250 & hvr-1250/Winegard Flatwave antenna/Schedules Direct
main client: NextPVR 5.0.7 Desktop Client; LG 50UH5500 WebOS 3.0 TV
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