Irritating Progranmme Title Trend!!

[jcjefferies]

A couple of irritating trends in programme titles in the UK making recurring recordings much more difficult.

1) Several channels have started adding "NEW:" at the start of the title so existing recurring recordings will ignore it. As my EPG is created from an XMLTV created by EPG collector I have the option to process the file to remove the word from the start of any title before loading it into NextPVR.

2) Some channels mainly the BBC I think for some programmes use the title format "Sub Title:Title". So creating an ordinary "Recurring Recording" wont work so you would have to make a Manual Recording with "title like %Title". The NextPVR "Search" and "Find All" wont find others in the series.

Chris

[sub]

Yep, painful.

If we see common reports of things like "NEW:" causing problems, I can add options to strip them out at the time it imports the EPG.

[bgowland]

A couple of irritating trends in programme titles in the UK making recurring recordings much more difficult.

1) Several channels have started adding "NEW:" at the start of the title so existing recurring recordings will ignore it. As my EPG is created from an XMLTV created by EPG collector I have the option to process the file to remove the word from the start of any title before loading it into NextPVR.

2) Some channels mainly the BBC I think for some programmes use the title format "Sub Title:Title". So creating an ordinary "Recurring Recording" wont work so you would have to make a Manual Recording with "title like %Title". The NextPVR "Search" and "Find All" wont find others in the series.

Chris

Have you got any specific examples of both of those? I can't seem to find any in my EPG. I use XMLTV GUI and the RT site - is it possible it's your XMLTV source which is generating these new title formats?

Cheers,
Brian

[imilne]

Channel 5 seem to be using the new: thing. I think I noticed it with The Mentalist the other night. Or New: The Mentalist I should say

Iain

[bgowland]

The "NEW:" prefix definitely has to be at the actual source or by EPG collector rather than it it being a convention of the TV channels. I've done a search of the last week's worth of my XMLTV files and can't find anything with a "NEW:" prefix.

Cheers,
Brian

[Lao Pan]

The "NEW:" prefix definitely has to be at the actual source or by EPG collector rather than it it being a convention of the TV channels. I've done a search of the last week's worth of my XMLTV files and can't find anything with a "NEW:" prefix.

Cheers,
Brian

This is happening from the DVB-T 7 day program guide - Channel 5, 5* and 5USA have been putting "New:" in front of just about every series for the last year or so - but they aren't consistent, half way through a series they will drop it, only to have it return a couple of episodes later.

What is even worse is some channels have just started putting "New" without the colon. I was wondering where "The Vampire Diaries" had gone next week on ITV2 (for HER you understand) and while searching for New just now, there it was "New The Vampire Diaries" - 2/3 of the way through the series :mad:

You can't just remove New from all searches / recording requests as there are also programs like "New Tricks" etc. that are legitimate.

[Lao Pan]

Could this be a parsing problem - I just checked the official Freeview website Program Guide and programs that have New prepended to the title in the epg don't have it on the website.

[bgowland]

This looks like a nasty problem.

I just checked "The Vampire Diaries" and none of mine show "New" in the title.

If the various EPG sources are going to mess around with titles the only option is matching on a regular expression but that can/will result in lots of stuff being scheduled even if you don't wan't it.

Cheers,
Brian

[ACTCMS]

There are a lot of "New:"s on CBBC - the "New:" also appears in the EPG through the TV's built-in freeview tuner.

Alex

[jcjefferies]

Channel 4 channels, Channel 5 Channels & Sky owned Channels are the main users of "NEW: " but have seen it used on others including by the BBC. I just checked and its used on the standard Freesat EPG on my STB as well.

An example of "Episode Title: Title" is on BBC2 next Monday 21st at 21:00 called "Amazon's Retail Revolution: Business Boomers". The previous two were called "Real Storage Wars: Business Boomers" and "Coffee Shop Hot Shots: Business Boomers". A similar example is on BBC2 on Friday evening called "Honey Badgers: Masters of Mayhem- Natural World" which is part of a 10 part series called "Natural World", the previous one being called "Africa's Giant Killers- Natural World". The obvious solution once you realise the none standard naming is to do a manual recording for the series title using "title like '%Natural World'" or "title like '%Business Boomers'".

Chris