Recording Movies which are broadcast in two parts

[mvallevand]

Here is how they look in xmltv format not straight forward IMO

Code:

<programme start="20210121155500 +0000" stop="20210121165000 +0000" channel="39df0b98bb5aa9fd9ea8128e7a661f11">
<title lang="en">The End of the Affair</title>
<desc lang="en">
Adaptation of the Graham Greene novel about two star-crossed lovers whose short affair begins and ends as tumultuously as the Second World War. Stars Deborah Kerr, Van Johnson, Peter Cushing. (1955)
</desc>
</programme>
<programme start="20210121165000 +0000" stop="20210121165500 +0000" channel="39df0b98bb5aa9fd9ea8128e7a661f11">
<title lang="en">Sony Movie News</title>
<desc lang="en">
Get the latest movie news, information on your favourite stars, celebrity gossip and Hollywood rumours in our daily news bulletin.
</desc>
</programme>
<programme start="20210121165500 +0000" stop="20210121180500 +0000" channel="39df0b98bb5aa9fd9ea8128e7a661f11">
<title lang="en">The End of the Affair</title>
<desc lang="en">
Adaptation of the Graham Greene novel about two star-crossed lovers whose short affair begins and ends as tumultuously as the Second World War. Stars Deborah Kerr, Van Johnson, Peter Cushing. (1955)
</desc>
</programme>

[sub]

These guys seem to be in the UK, and using DVB EPG. I wanted to check the crid show identifiers to see if I can clearly tell it's a continuation of the same show.

[ern]

I Read somewhere (cant find it now) that the CRID broadcaster has a process to cope with these gaps
An event CRID followed by a list of the events

I can manually record both item and the join them later as mentioned earlier but that of course take more time and manual input than ideal

Schedule direct seems to ignore these gaps

[sub]

I Read somewhere (cant find it now) that the CRID broadcaster has a process to cope with these gaps
An event CRID followed by a list of the events

I can manually record both item and the join them later as mentioned earlier but that of course take more time and manual input than ideal

If someone can provide an example full ts, I'm sure I can have NextPVR do something about it automatically.

[ern]

Hi Sub

Im not sure if this info will help but I found it in the following forum post
https://tvheadend.org/issues/1303

There is a lengthy discussion and fix for this issue in TVHeadend software - Which I have checked and can confirm even though the EPG on TVHeadend shows a news break when you hit the record button it records the whole movie including the news break

DVR: Record segmented programmes identified by EIT.

A broadcaster can split a programme in to multiple segments. These
are identified by the segments having a CRID containing an IMI
(a hash character followed by an ID). Segments have identical
values for this CRID and IMI and the segments start within three
hours of the end of the previous segment.

These rules are documented in this spec in section 7.1.7:
http://www.freeviewnz.tv/media/1055/free...es_2_1.pdf
This document is based on the UK transmission specification.

For example, a movie may be broadcast as:
21:00--22:00 movie segment 1
22:00--22:05 five minute news
22:05--23:30 movie segment 2

The xmltv guides typically merges this segments in to one
programme such as:
21:00--23:30 movie (including news)

In theory, a programme can be split in to numerous segments.
In practice I have only seen a programme split in to two
segments as shown above.

To simplify recording these programmes, we identify segmented
programmes and extend the stop time. So, in the above case,
if the user records the 9pm showing then we will automatically
extend the stop time to be 23:30 instead of 22:00.

This patch explicitly disables "epg running state" for stopping
the recording. This is because the recording is tied to the first
showing and we don't want the recording to stop at 22:00 in the
above example.

We cache the calculated stop time to avoid any overheads, but
explicitly recalculate it at the start of the programme. This ensures
we detect any recent changes.

No modification is done of the actual EPG data to attempt to
merge the programme segments.

The consequence of this is that the EPG will only show a "recording"
marker against the first segment of the programme and not against
the second segment, which is unfortunate, however it is consistent
with recordings which have an extra stop time. The upcoming
recordings tab correctly shows the end time.

The duration of the finished recording is currently incorrectly
reported due to #3706. So the movie above would be reported as
60 minutes instead of 2h30.

Although the CRID processing is believed to be a global standard,
if other countries do not follow the UK/NZ specification then
the dvr_entry_get_segment_stop_extra could be updated to check a
(bitmask) config variable to enable/disable specific CRID processing.

I believe the overhead of the strcmp for the CRID check is minimal,
even on low-spec machines. If necessary we could cache to indicate
the CRID check has failed.

[ern]

I Read somewhere (cant find it now) that the CRID broadcaster has a process to cope with these gaps
An event CRID followed by a list of the events

I can manually record both item and the join them later as mentioned earlier but that of course take more time and manual input than ideal

If someone can provide an example full ts, I'm sure I can have NextPVR do something about it automatically.

Hi Sub

Im not sure if this info will help but I found it in the following forum post
https://tvheadend.org/issues/1303

[sub]

Thanks for the info.

If a UK user can use the evaluation version of tscapture (from https://tscapture.com) to capture a 1 minute full transport stream from a channel that has this scenario appearing in a few days time in the guide, I'll take a look.

[ern]

Hi

Movie Sahara has a break in it - added capture.ts I hope it is what you want

https://file.io/BtLEaS8xgRce

or

https://we.tl/t-9nUxzlze30

[mvallevand]

If you file is more then 2MB (and it will be) you will need to provide a link to a site link Dropbox, OneDrive or GoggleDrive

Martin

[ern]

If you file is more then 2MB (and it will be) you will need to provide a link to a site link Dropbox, OneDrive or GoggleDrive

Martin

Hi

Thanks I was wondering why I was struggling to get it attached !!!

https://file.io/BtLEaS8xgRce

or

https://we.tl/t-9nUxzlze30