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USA - Tweak Info

 
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USA - Tweak Info
Atomike
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#1
2005-05-09, 06:14 PM
I've built my PVR - entirely from parts recommended by other PVR guys, and my results are mixed at best. What I need help with is some advice on successful tweaks for USA users with similar hardware.
Still images with no motion are very good (just some color issues which I will tweak later). Moving images, however, seem to have a jerky-ghost to them, however it's subtle. It's enough to bother me though. I work in TV, and I want really good motion - not even a hint of jerkiness on camera pans, etc.

My Stuff:

Hauppauge PVR-250
Nvidia FX-5200 for output (S-video)
most recent drivers for both cards and lastest GB-PVR too.
512 Ram
Socket A MB with XP 3000+ CPU
FFDshow installed
XP-Home - Defrag every day.
Hauppauge Tweak Tool installed

Settings - Record at "Best" always
VMR-9
Decoder - Intervideo Video
"Use FFDSHOW" IS checked
"Use live preview mode..." IS checked
FFDSHOW interlacing

What else could I do? it seems like these are supposed to be the ideal settings for my hardware, no?
Thanks for all replies!!!
S-Video out to NTSC TV
NF7-Sv.2 motherboard (SocketA) w/512 mb ram
XP-3000+ CPU - XP Home OS
eVGA fx5200 (video out)
PVR-250 (video in) - latest drivers
Nvidia DVD decoder (trial for now)
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2005-05-09, 06:42 PM
1) Try w/ FFDshow off (and filters you may have added off)
2) Try w/ Live off
3) Try lowering your motion filter setting using tweak tool, and make sure it's not on "dynamic". You'll need to use that 2nd pulldown on that page and go into haup card settings to be sure what is in the tool is really what you are set at.
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2005-05-09, 07:18 PM
If you live in the US and you record telecined material (film sources, prime time shows) then my best results have been with DScaler5 as the decoder.

It's kinda alpha/beta right now, but it works great. The jerky ghost you're talking about is probably coming from a bad deinterlace that the intervideo decoder does. Intervideo likes to just blend two frams together so about every 5th of a second you get a blurry frame cause the 3:2 doesn't line up. DScaler has film source detection and handles this well.

Make sure you have as few decoders installed as possible. DScaler5 will take precedence over Intervideo within GBPVR by just selecting system defaults as your decoder.

Also, if you get DScaler installed and it looks wacky like it's jerking back in time for a frame every so often, check out the sticky thread in this forum. It's about a bug in quartz.dll (part of DirectShow).

Good luck,

Jason
Windows XP
Athlon 64 3500+, 2GB
nVidia 7300GT, PVR 250
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2005-05-09, 07:19 PM
Also, when trying DScaler, uninstall ffdshow, i've had problems where they don't play well together.

http://www.dscaler.org, go to the DScaler5 forum, download the 0.06 release.
Windows XP
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#5
2005-05-09, 08:49 PM
tipstir Wrote:jcromes, you had problems with ffdhows, I don't see problems unless you use the right one your current processor. DScaler decoder, works then it doesn't.

Not sure exactly what you're saying, that's a little confusing.

When I said problems, I just meant that they can conflict. I've seen the DScaler video decoder being used along with some other audio decoder before and while that might not cause any 'noticible' problems to your average user, it's not the intended result.

I can't stand codec packs because it gives too many DirectShow graph possibilities. I like to have one Demultiplexer, one video decoder and one audio decoder that I know for a fact is used every time on that format.
Windows XP
Athlon 64 3500+, 2GB
nVidia 7300GT, PVR 250
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2005-05-10, 04:36 AM
tipstir Wrote:Not sure what I am saying?? Hmm.. What I am saying is that there are more that one type of FFDShow base on your CPU (Processor) Intel has a SSE2 so there is a version of FFDShow for P4 to take advantage of your SSE2 Instruction.

Ahh, yes, gotcha. I was using the SSE version of ffdshow since I have an Athlon XP. And yes, when I did install the K-Lite codec pack, i checked only the things I wanted. They're handy if you know what you're doing.

The problem is that the average user says "ah, well i just want everything to work so I'll just check all the cute little boxes!" That causes more problems than it solves sometimes.

Jason
Windows XP
Athlon 64 3500+, 2GB
nVidia 7300GT, PVR 250
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#7
2005-05-13, 05:20 PM
jcromes Wrote:If you live in the US and you record telecined material (film sources, prime time shows) then my best results have been with DScaler5 as the decoder.

How can you get DScaler5 to show up on the list of possible decoders? I installed it and added "DScaler" and "DScaler5" to the xml as suggested elsewhere and it doesn't show up.

Thanks!
GB-PVR (usually newest version) (Love it! Direct access to 45-button Hauppauge remote not working)
WXP SP2 / Cel 2.9Ghz / 512DDR/400 / Intel PERL / PVR-150, Matrox G550, "160"Gb WD 7200/8Mb
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