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Web admin Play Program option
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2005-04-07, 05:34 PM (This post was last modified: 2005-04-07, 06:47 PM by askelhorne.)
I noticed that when trying to test the Play Program option in the updated web admin, the IP it tries to connect to is the HTPC's local IP. I have my HTPC behind a router and when I try to play a program through the web interface, from outside my network, it tries to connect to 192.168.x.x instead of my WAN IP.
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2005-04-07, 06:03 PM
You need to supply a static route I suspect. Or..... Are you inside your NW and trying to access a service that is advertised on the outside? If so this will not work as the traffic will get dropped due to source route protection. Is the service you are trying to access in a DMZ? If yes then you need a static route. Try pinging it
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2005-04-07, 06:50 PM
I have a static IP for my HTPC, issued by my router. I don't think it's a routing issue because I can access the web interface fine, from outside my network. The problem is, I think, that the Winamp playlist file that it sends when you try and watch a recording, contains the local IP of the box, which won't work from the outside.
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2005-04-07, 07:00 PM
askelhorne Wrote:I have a static IP for my HTPC, issued by my router. I don't think it's a routing issue because I can access the web interface fine, from outside my network. The problem is, I think, that the Winamp playlist file that it sends when you try and watch a recording, contains the local IP of the box, which won't work from the outside.
Ahh but you didnt mention Winamp. Its probably an embeded IP in the application.
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2005-04-07, 11:07 PM
Winamp is just the program that I tried while testing. The problem is independent of the application used to view the video. The GB-PVR web server sends a text file, with a .m3u extension, when you click to watch the video. Inside that text file is the information that should be needed to watch the file. An example is:

Quote:#EXTM3U
http://192.168.1.108:7647/gbpvr/public/d...161&mode=1


Which is a local IP. If I'm outside my network, it doesn't work. If I change the IP in the .m3u file to my IP as provided by my ISP, it will connect.

So the problem lies in how the GB-PVR gets the IP.
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2005-04-08, 07:24 AM
askelhorne Wrote:Winamp is just the program that I tried while testing. The problem is independent of the application used to view the video. The GB-PVR web server sends a text file, with a .m3u extension, when you click to watch the video. Inside that text file is the information that should be needed to watch the file. An example is:



Which is a local IP. If I'm outside my network, it doesn't work. If I change the IP in the .m3u file to my IP as provided by my ISP, it will connect.

So the problem lies in how the GB-PVR gets the IP.
Thats correct. Your application does not know that its IP is natted to another address by the router. It only see's the real address.
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2005-04-08, 12:56 PM
And the Firewall has not idea to NAT that either.. It's just the way it is.. I can't think of a method to easily changed that URL as it is generated on the GBPVR box and THAT does know the IP address of the router, or where you are connecting from (External v.s Internal).

I haven't tried this feature yet as I just upgrade to 0.9.11 last night, does it stream the video or try and download it completely first?

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2005-04-08, 01:54 PM
Networker Wrote:And the Firewall has not idea to NAT that either.. It's just the way it is.. I can't think of a method to easily changed that URL as it is generated on the GBPVR box and THAT does know the IP address of the router, or where you are connecting from (External v.s Internal).

I haven't tried this feature yet as I just upgrade to 0.9.11 last night, does it stream the video or try and download it completely first?

John


A fix would be pretty difficult.

All you would have to do is:
1) Grab the IP of the machine requesting to play the file
2) Determine if they are within your subnet
3) If so, send them the internal IP, if not send them the external IP.

The hard parts are:
1) The web server has no idea what its external IP is unless someone writes some sort of IP detection. (Like loading http://www.whatismyip.com and parsing the page for example.)
2) I'm not sure how hard it is to access the packet information to determine the client's address.

Also:
1) What's the point? Unless the video files have been transcoded down to a really really low bitrate, no one is going to be able to play them over the internet without garbling. Even the best broadband connection is going to max out at 512kbps upstream so they're going to have to be compressed A LOT to make them work. I used to try this with SnapStream (trial) and it was really pretty pathetic - and I have 3Mbps/512kbps cable.

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2005-08-24, 08:29 AM
I have tried to start playing video over the internet via the WEB interface and have experienced the following:

The address in the media link is correct, it is the same as the address you use to access the WEB interface. But, I am still not able to play video. I have searched and found that Windows Media Player normally uses port number 1755 and 554, I have redirected those incoming portst in the NAT, but the WM still cannot connect. I suspect it is still a port issue, anyone who has this up and running.

Regarding performance; I have a Plextor PVR that compresses to DivX and the files plays very well over 1 m/bit outgoing ADSL.
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