Lots of channels no TV and No EPG (Freesat over SAT>IP)

[PaulMc]

So after messing about a little more and reading the ffmpeg docs a little it looks like the 'pids=all' doesn't work, at least on my system.

I couldn't find the correct info for BBC Lon HD but I did manage to find it for ITV HD (the information on the SatIP website is out of date).

Here's a link to the mux file from that channel https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rDtwCJo...drive_link

This is the command that I used to obtain it:

ffmpeg -rtsp_flags satip_raw -i "satip://192.168.0.199:554/?src=1&freq=11097&sr=23000&pol=v&fec=34&msys=dvbs2&mtype=8psk&ro=0.35&plts=on&pids=0,17,18,258,2305,2307" -map 0 -c copy -f data -y fullmuxITV.ts

Does this help?

[mvallevand]

Yes that is not going to be right. Sorry about leaving some xml encoding in there. I don't know what pid list to use for OTA epg sorry. Here is the pid list that NextPVR might be sending

0,267,5300,5305,5304,5302,5301,2321,2319,3851,3844,3843,3842,3841,3840,2307,3848,3846,3845

You can try that instead of pids=all, but I expect that will just be a normal stream but it confirms the command syntax is correct.

Edit: your link is protected but that looks like a standard without EIT

Martin

[sub]

From memory, the bulk of the listings are on PID 0xBBA or 0xBBB

[PaulMc]

Edit:  your link is protected but that looks like a standard without EIT

Sorry about that. Maybe this link will work better https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rDtwCJo...sp=sharing

After a bit more Googling I find that the 7-day Freesat EPG is only available on one transponder. All the others just do Now and Next. The PIDs are still a mystery though.

[PaulMc]

Here's another mux file from that EPG transponder with the PIDs that sub just posted.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bkieyIb...sp=sharing

Here's the ffmpeg command I used:

ffmpeg -rtsp_flags satip_raw -i "satip://192.168.0.199:554/?src=1&freq=11426&sr=27500&pol=h&fec=23&msys=dvbs&mtype=qpsk&ro=0.35&plts=on&pids=3002,3003" -map 0 -c copy -f data -y fullmuxEPG3.ts

Am I getting any closer?

[Update]
Here's a zipped version in case Google Drive tries to process the file as a video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/12QdMw-3...sp=sharing

[mvallevand]

After a bit more Googling I find that the 7-day Freesat EPG is only available on one transponder. All the others just do Now and Next. The PIDs are still a mystery though.

Is it possible that you are talking the Freesat EPG and not the frequency based EPG?  It is not clear to me Freesat  EPG is supported on SAT>IP  

In another thread there was also confusion because someone mistook the Open TV EPG data as Freesat EPG and NextPVR doesn't as yet support that.

EPG23 doesn't look like the correct pids. Does TVHeadend or the SAT>IP server create logs of what is being requested for the EPG?

Martin

[satforall]

You’ll find 7 day EPG on Astra 28.2 at 11778 V which is Open TV Sky EPG. It will provide EPG for the Freesat channels. NPVR doesn’t support OpenTV apparently. I tried 11426 H in both Windows and Linux. NPVR will pick up the 7 day EPG in the Windows version but not in Linux.

[mvallevand]

You’ll find 7 day EPG on Astra 28.2 at 11778 V which is Open TV Sky EPG. It will provide EPG for the Freesat channels. NPVR doesn’t support OpenTV apparently. I tried 11426 H in both Windows and Linux. NPVR will pick up the 7 day EPG in the Windows version but not in Linux.

Did you try SAT>IP Freesat on Windows?  If so sub might be able to get that working on Linux too, and it would help to get a fullmux for 11426 and another fullmux for the a station frequency that might use it as discussed in another thread.

Martin

[satforall]

Here’s the other thread Martin is referring to
https://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.ph...744&page=3

[PaulMc]

After a bit more Googling I find that the 7-day Freesat EPG is only available on one transponder. All the others just do Now and Next. The PIDs are still a mystery though.

Is it possible that you are talking the Freesat EPG and not the frequency based EPG?  It is not clear to me Freesat  EPG is supported on SAT>IP  

In another thread there was also confusion because someone mistook the Open TV EPG data as Freesat EPG and NextPVR doesn't as yet support that.

EPG23 doesn't look like the correct pids.  Does TVHeadend or the SAT>IP server create logs of what is being requested for the EPG?

Martin

Sorry, Martin, I think we are getting close to the edge of my understanding of this stuff now. I know that there's a Sky (OpenTV) EPG and a Freesat EPG and I believe that the Sky data set is a superset of the Freesat one. Given what I know about Sat>IP I can't see any reason why any EPG wouldn't be supported as these are simply data streams. Isn't it down to the decoding app to decide if they are supported or not? For me, I don't have a preference for which I get as the channels I'm interested in are on both.

Yes, I've now read the other thread. It didn't look like confusion, more about trying to establish what NPVR supports and on which OS.

The EPG file I uploaded isn't a video stream so it is something else. I've no skills when it comes to decoding these data so will bow to your knowledge on this. As it is "something" i.e. not an empty tune, then I presume it is data of some sort. Clearly, knowledge of the PIDs is crucial to getting this right.

I will take a look at the debug stuff in TVHeadend to see if there are any clues as to how it is doing it.

One thing that puzzles me a bit is that when the EPG is updating in NPVR the settings page shows that it is tuning all the muxes in turn rather than going to the EPG mux. Is this expected or is this part of the problem? Won't the other muxes only give you the Now/Next information.