CommunitySkin common text styles

[McBainUK]

Based on posts from myself, Fatman_do, MixMan, jeff, and others.

Feel free to rip apart

http://gbpvr.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Devel...TextStyles

[Fatman_do]

I think the number of styles is plenty in that list.

Is there a need for ScreenTagText ?

I guess I could see a need for it.

Either ButtonTextNormal should be ButtonText

or

ListText and IconText should be ListTextNormal, IconTextNormal.

Just to be consistant.

[Fatman_do]

I think having three different "ScreenText" sizes used for anywhere on the background satisfies Jeff's needs for "time" and other goodies.

Maybe the name can be simplified to:
NormalText
SmallText
LargeText

Comments?

[Fatman_do]

What do you think Jeff?

Sizes could have a range set by the standard.

Large could be 16pt-20pt
Normal could be 13-15pt
Small could be 10-12pt

A skin just would need to accomodate that range. Whatever we come up with, I will set the baseskin.xml values for the max size to make sure there is no text clipping.

[Jeff]

Sounds good to me.

Jeff

[McBainUK]

A skin just would need to accomodate that range

So, for example, the text on a list would need to accomadate 15px text? Its currently set to 12px. What is 'normal' sized text currently?

A set size maybe easier, and more predicatble to work with. Something like small=10, normal=12, large=15, xlarge=20. Items like ScreenName could have there own text style/size.

Is small even needed? As small text is hard to read in an HTPC enviroment.

[Fatman_do]

So, for example, the text on a list would need to accomadate 15px text? Its currently set to 12px. What is 'normal' sized text currently?

A set size maybe easier, and more predicatble to work with. Something like small=10, normal=12, large=15. Items like ScreenName would have there own text style/size.

When you say "text on a list", are you meaning "ListText" and "ListTextSelected" ?

I don't know if that needs to be broken down into different sizes if that is the case.

The sizes and I tossed out were for the only style type that was "sized" on the list.

ScreenText... and ScreenTag....

As far as list items are concerned, I think being able to fit in up to 16pt, if a user wants a higher-vis look, should be considered. They would naturally expect some font clipping on length.

Most default sizes for those are in the 13pt range.

[Fatman_do]

Small text really isn't needed for generic screen elements.

"IconText" in some plugins were smaller, that is why I created that textstyle. To be able to keep that size smaller for those conditions.

So it is probably like how your list is now, just maybe change the ScreenText... to NormalText and LargeText and drop the small sizes.
We could have NormalTag and LargeTag as well.

We sort of have everything "specified" as to where.

Lists use ListText and IconText, Popups are defined. There probably doesn't need to be a definition for Background_Text.png areas.

The NormalText ect. would be considered valid to be placed just about anywhere, it could be used as descriptive info in a listview (like ablum playing details, ect.) or background image area. Pretty much assuming a white-lightgray color for majority of conditions.

[MixMan]

I suggest
CommunitySkin_Button_Text_Normal and CommunitySkin_Button_Text_Selected

the same goes for the List views
CommunitySkin_ListView_Text_Normal
CommunitySkin_ListView_Text_Selected

etc...

Why not complicate things as much as possible when your at it.

[McBainUK]

So it is probably like how your list is now...We sort of have everything "specified" as to where.

--- So to summarise buttons and backgrounds (headers taken from the wiki page) ---

Buttons
Text drawn on to the button images.
ButtonTextSelected and ButtonTextNormal

Screen Background
The title of the screen, drawn on to the background/title bar images.
ScreenNameText

Text drawn directly on to the background images. Tag can be used (for example) for the "now playing" part of "Now Playing : 06 Bat out of Hell" or the "Station" tag in the manual recordings popup.
The Large textsyles can be used when the plugin has emphisis. In UK Cinemas , for example, the cinema name "Vue" i sbest to be drawn larger than the phone number and address - for usability and space reasons.
ScreenBackgroundText, ScreenBackgroundTextLarge
ScreenBackgroundTagText, ScreenBackgroundTagTextLarge

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This convention for text styles sets - Text (normal sized), Large and Tag (header/title) could be applied to, popups BackgroundText and list text styles. For the most part, the normal text style would be used, the other stlyes reserved for screens where the information being presented requires different styles.

Thoughts?