help setting up dual recording before tonight!

[nv40]

I just got a new tv tuner card today, and i need to record 2 shows that come on at the same time tonight, but 1 is on regular cable, and the other is through my digital cable box. My question is----how do i make sure that the correct card is chosen by gbpvr to record the correct show, since only the card plugged into the digital cable box can record the show i want off of there. I think i remember hearing that gbpvr goes in order of how the cards were installed, and that if 1 is busy, it's moves to the next one......if this is true, and the card for the digital box is the 1 i allready have installed, can i just set the start time for the digital recording ahead of the regular cable recording, in which case gbpvr will use the digital card first and when the 2nd recording comes up it will use the new card i just got????

[sub]

This doesnt relate to the order of the cpature sources.

When you set up each of your capture device, make sure the only channels enabled in its channel list are the channel it can access. This way if you try to record a channel only available via one device, it'll automatically handle this.

[nv40]

This doesnt relate to the order of the cpature sources.

When you set up each of your capture device, make sure the only channels enabled in its channel list are the channel it can access. This way if you try to record a channel only available via one device, it'll automatically handle this.

Ok, let me make sure i got this right. The card on the digital box only needs to record channel 3, because the box handles all the channel changing and sends everything to my pvr on channel 3. So if i just go in and remove all the channels but 3 on my digital box card, and then allow all channels except 3 on the other card, then gbpvr is smart enough to figure out which card to use, correct?? thanks for the fast response by the way.



edit: I just realized how hard i'm trying to make this......all i really need to do is remove channel 3 from the one that isn't hooked to the digital cable box, correct? i have a switch that flips over my first tuner from the digital cable to the regular cable, and i only flip it over when i need to record something off one of the digital cable channels. So when both cards are on regular cable, it doesn't matter which one gbpvr uses, but when i flip the switch and set a manual recording for channel 3, it's always gonna use the correct card on the switch since the card i am adding does not have channel 3 available in it's setting???? this correct??? i think i got it now.

[sub]

You've still not quite got it right.

Say you get 25 channels of analog cable connected to one card, and (a superset) 100 with digital cable connected to the other card. Set up a capture source for each, including your EPG details (zap2it, XMLTV etc), then do the initial 'Update EPG'. Both capture sourses will list all the channels that come from your capture source (might be 100 channels to follow the example above). By default each of these channels will have the 'enabled' checkbox ticked. Untick the enabled check box for channels not available via that device - after this one of your capture sources will have 25 channels enabled (75 not enabled), the other will have all 100 enabled.

If you wanted to force it to only use the digital cable capture source when it really needed to, you might disable those 25 analog channels on the the digital cable capture source.

[nv40]

You've still not quite got it right.

Say you get 25 channels of analog cable connected to one card, and (a superset) 100 with digital cable connected to the other card. Set up a capture source for each, including your EPG details (zap2it, XMLTV etc), then do the initial 'Update EPG'. Both capture sourses will list all the channels that come from your capture source (might be 100 channels to follow the example above). By default each of these channels will have the 'enabled' checkbox ticked. Untick the enabled check box for channels not available via that device - after this one of your capture sources will have 25 channels enabled (75 not enabled), the other will have all 100 enabled.

If you wanted to force it to only use the digital cable capture source when it really needed to, you might disable those 25 analog channels on the the digital cable capture source.

ok...let me go into detail. I now have 2 tuners, both hooked up to 100 channel regular cable. I have one of those tuners on a switch that when flipped over, gives the feed from my 500 channel digital box to that tuner.....however i have to manually change the channels on the digital box, and keep the tuner set to channel 3, to record anything off of there. 99% of the time i want both tuners on regular 100 channel cable, able to record anything on there.....but every now and then (like tonight) i have a pay per view special that comes on channel 500 on my digital box, so i used to simply flip the switch, and set my tuner to manually record channel 3 for however long the PPV was, and set the digital box on the correct channel at the correct time manually. Now i added a second tuner so that i can still record a show coming on my regular 100 channel cable at around the same time as my PPV show. So i guess what i am going to do, is simply untick all channels available to my tuner set to the digital box except channel 3 for tonight.....then after the PPV is over, i'll re-enable all channels to it, and flip the switch back over to feed it regular 100 channel cable. I'll just do this manually every time a PPV comes on since i only do this like once a month or so.....sound good?

edit: forgot to ask, does gbpvr download your epg information twice even though it's going to be identical for both my cards?

[nv40]

new problem....i installed the new card and set everything up...but now the new card works, but eveything the other card records is static. I switched the actual cable wires around to make sure it was all connected correctly, and same thing. I went in and accidently removed the old card from my capture sources and lost all my pending and reoccuring recordings!!! any ideas? also, my remote stopped working after this too.

[sub]

ok...let me go into detail. I now have 2 tuners, both hooked up to 100 channel regular cable. I have one of those tuners on a switch that when flipped over, gives the feed from my 500 channel digital box to that tuner.....however i have to manually change the channels on the digital box, and keep the tuner set to channel 3, to record anything off of there. 99% of the time i want both tuners on regular 100 channel cable, able to record anything on there.....but every now and then (like tonight) i have a pay per view special that comes on channel 500 on my digital box, so i used to simply flip the switch, and set my tuner to manually record channel 3 for however long the PPV was, and set the digital box on the correct channel at the correct time manually.

Ok, I'd probably have a capture source set up for each card, with full EPG giving 100 channels, and an additional capture source on the one card, with the EPG source set to 'none' and manually create a channel called AV1 (or Digital Cable) or something similar. This capture source would be set for 'fixed channel, external tuner' with the constant channel number set to 3.

After that, this 'AV1' channel will show up as a channel that can be used when scheduling manual recordings etc.

edit: forgot to ask, does gbpvr download your epg information twice even though it's going to be identical for both my cards?

No, it'll just be downloaded the once.

[sub]

I went in and accidently removed the old card from my capture sources and lost all my pending and reoccuring recordings!!! any ideas?

Thats normal, and it even warns you about it when you do it...

[sub]

new problem....i installed the new card and set everything up...but now the new card works, but eveything the other card records is static. I switched the actual cable wires around to make sure it was all connected correctly, and same thing. I went in and accidently removed the old card from my capture sources and lost all my pending and reoccuring recordings!!! any ideas? also, my remote stopped working after this too.

Both you card shouldbe set identicial for their primary capture sources, but one set to device #1, the other to device #2.... assuming you've added another card of exactly the same type as the previous one?

[nv40]

yeah...it warned me about "this will remove all data associated with this tuner" or something to that effect, but i thought i had clicked on the new tuner, and realized right after that i did that to the old tuner which had all my scheduled recordings. I'll have to go back and fix that, but my main problem is that my new card works fine, but my old one only shows static.....like the cable wire is unplugged, but as i mentioned..i changed the wires around and same result, so i know it's getting a cable feed. They are both pvr-150 cards, identical, and i named them "pvr-150-1" and "pvr-150-2" and one is set to tuner#1 and the new one is set to tuner#2....then i put in my epg info for the new card and did a manual epg udate, that's it. Never touched any other settings....but my remote doesn't work now, and the old card shows nothing but static. I couldn't get it fixed before my PPV tonight, so i had to use the new card to record the PPV and missed the other show....and now it's late so i'll tear it all apart and start from scratch tommorrow. If i can fix this problem, i am going to go with your setup idea regarding making two sources for the first card. There's no way to recover all my scheduled and reoccuring recordings from the capture source i removed, right?