Almost duplicated recording

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Some of the minor differences with the way channels are done in the US make some things seem more awkward than they are when exactly the same logic is applied to DVB channels - which is really what GB-PVR is designed for. I do try to accommodate both, but I've never even seen ATSC, so things obviously arent as well thought out or tested with ATSC.

[Cahill84]

Oic

[Cahill84]

O.k. now I'm having a major problem with it. If I initialize the analog side, it won't reference the ATSC side when I switch. For example, I tune to channel 14 it will tune it in fine, but if I want to change to channel 441 which is the assigned channel for 44.1 mapped digital it shows a fuzzy screen. I thought maybe I didn't map correctly, but I do. I went back and checked. I don't understand.

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By "fuzzy screen" do you mean like static that you get when your tv is not tuned to a station? If so, then it sounds like you've still got the channel enabled in your channel lineup. If not, then post a screenshot so I can see what you're talking about.

If you're using the analog tuner, then try to switch to a channel that is not available (or enabled) on the analog tuner, then it'll look for another capture source that does have the channels (like the digital side of your device).

[Cahill84]

Yes, sorry by fuzzy I meant that it was the equivalent to trying to tune a channel which you don't receive. The black, snowy picture of the TV when there is no signal.

If I go under the Capture sources select the analog side and then hit edit. Then I go through that list the channel has all the information from the digital side next to it. Does that make sense? For example T:53,10,1.... It does not have the typical stuff for example 14. Does that make sense? I think I know what you mean about it being checked in that area, but would you clarify before I go changing things. I had it crash a couple of times and completely erase the EPG which was slightly concerned me. I left it alone for the weekend while I was away and then updated the EPG when I got back and that fixed the problem. I just don't want to be doing anything to it that would erase that kind of information. I don't know why the EPG did that because I wasn't even messing with any of the capture information. I was trying to troubleshoot my remote. I don't know. Thanks as always for your quick reply Sub. I definitely appreciate it.

-Anthony

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Yes, sorry by fuzzy I meant that it was the equivalent to trying to tune a channel which you don't receive. The black, snowy picture of the TV when there is no signal.

If I go under the Capture sources select the analog side and then hit edit. Then I go through that list the channel has all the information from the digital side next to it. Does that make sense? For example T:53,10,1.... It does not have the typical stuff for example 14. Does that make sense?

No, its not clear to me. Reproduce the problem, then zip and attach the logs and your gbpvr.db3 and I'll take a look.

[Cahill84]

O.k. what happened was that when the information from Zap2it updated it added back unusual channels which are listed in a different lineup. I don't know why it did it this time versus other times, but it added the channels from my digital ATSC lineup to the Analog one. It took me a while to figure out, but I finally was able to remove the ones that were incorrect and then re-update the EPG. After it was all said and done, I was able to change channels. I guess it associates it by the name of the channel rather than the channel number as far as tuning. B/c that of course meant I had two channels that were named the same thing, but were referencing different channels-441 signifying 44.1 digital. Even when I went to the right channel it was trying to reference the analog channel 108 which it added on my EPG update. I don't know if it's because I had the reload box checked for EPG or not, but after I updated this last time it did not have the same issue. I will see tonight if it fixes the problem. Likewise, I am assuming that I will still be getting duplicated recordings because of the analog vs. ATSC tuning. I haven't tried it yet though.

Thanks for your insight though it got me on the right path,
Anthony

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O.k. what happened was that when the information from Zap2it updated it added back unusual channels which are listed in a different lineup. I don't know why it did it this time versus other times, but it added the channels from my digital ATSC lineup to the Analog one. It took me a while to figure out, but I finally was able to remove the ones that were incorrect and then re-update the EPG. After it was all said and done, I was able to change channels. I guess it associates it by the name of the channel rather than the channel number as far as tuning.

Its probably because you had both capture sources pointing at the same zap2it channel line up, and had "removed" the digital channels from the channel lineup instead of just disabling this. This would have meant the channels would have been added again at the next EPG update.

Likewise, I am assuming that I will still be getting duplicated recordings because of the analog vs. ATSC tuning.

Set up correctly, there is no reason why you would.

[Cahill84]

So, are you saying that I have to have two separate accounts with Zap2it in order to have both channels not overlap?? B/c I'm unaware on how to point to a particular lineup through GBPVR. Right now I have one account with two different line-ups. One is set up as a Cable line-up and the other is set up as a Digital Broadcast line-up. When I download the EPG it mixes them all together for both tuners. In which case, I simply sort through them and deselect the ones that do not apply underneath the Capture sorces tab. I unselect from both sorces the channels that apply to the other side. Likewise, this is where I map the digitial channels. Then I have been going to the channels tab and changing the channel number for the ATSC channels to something more memorable than 101-109. So I change them to something that correlates to their digital channels 10.1=101 and 44.1= 441. Last time, I went to record on Channel 44.1 it picked up the show I was referring to on Channel 14 as well. Channel 44.1 is the digital version of Fox while 14 is the analog version of it. Which is really interesting considering that they are in no way linked beyond the channels' name as downloaded from the Zap2it site. It hasn't created a duplicate recording as of yet, but I will check tonight after 8:00. Any thoughts on what I've done wrong now that I've explained the process I went through a little more clearly?

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So, are you saying that I have to have two separate accounts with Zap2it in order to have both channels not overlap?? B/c I'm unaware on how to point to a particular lineup through GBPVR. Right now I have one account with two different line-ups.

GB-PVR doesnt understand the zap2it lineup concept, so it is probably easiest to have two accounts with separate lineups (unless one is just a subset of the other, in which case you can just disable (not remove) the channels that are not relevent).

Last time, I went to record on Channel 44.1 it picked up the show I was referring to on Channel 14 as well. Channel 44.1 is the digital version of Fox while 14 is the analog version of it.

This sounds correct. GB-PVR knows they're the same channel and will schedule recordings on which ever it needs to for recording (based on the often discussed rules about capture source priority). If you dont want it to ever used the analog tuner for that channel, then you can disable it one the analog capture source channel list.

Which is really interesting considering that they are in no way linked beyond the channels' name as downloaded from the Zap2it site. It hasn't created a duplicate recording as of yet, but I will check tonight after 8:00.

Assuming you've got 'dont record duplicates' checked, then it shouldnt schedule any duplicates.