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#1
2005-01-10, 12:51 PM
This seems to be quite simple that future versions of GB-PVR should also interact with WinLIRC. Spec is here and also sample codes:

http://winlirc.sourceforge.net/developer.html

So, the story in short is that many people has only one PCI slot in their super slick and small and quiet home media pc. When you use Hauppauge tunercards other than MCE release, they are shipped with remote, but if only one tuner device is less and want for example use Hauppauge PVR-500MCE, there is no way you could use original Hauppauge IR sensor, you could use it only via WinLIRC (simple and extremely cheap serial port IR receiver for PC). I have used successfully Hauppauge remote control with WinLIRC controlling for example ViPlay and BSPlayer, so why not also GB-PVR should support it? [Image: smile.gif]
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Server: homemade (ASUS MB, AMD x2 5200+, 4G RAM, 3.2TB RAID5, 1Gbit) + DVB-T Hauppauge HVR1300 (h264 TS) + IPTV
Clients: ASUS Pundit-R (P4 3.2GHz Northwood!, 1G RAM, zero HDD - netboot, WinLIRC to use Hauppauge remote on system without Hauppauge devices) + IBM ThinkPad T42 (pvr over 802.11g) + FSC N560 WM6 (802.11g) + etc Smile
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2005-01-11, 10:05 AM
Hi Lif,

I was just looking into this stuff because my Hauppauge remote doesn't work anymore. I now use my TV remote with WinLIRC and Girder, but not with the Hauppauge receiver. Instead I use my old Packard Bell serial receiver I had lying around in a drawer.

Since I only want to use the remote for GBPVR, I don't really want to use Girder, so I am looking for something to replace it that is free. Until now I have only found shareware.

Direct support from GBPVR would be the best deal of course, but I think the Sub could spend his time on more important things. I could develop something myself using SendMessage() to send the keystrokes to GBPVR. Getting the data from WinLIRC is trivial and I am already spying on that with a little C# code.

For what concerns your configuration, it is not clear to me if you have WinLIRC listening to the Hauppauge IR sensor or not, because I don't know how the thing is accessed. I am asking this because I would like to put the Packard Bell receiver back into the drawer if possible (It is too big and white to receive a high WAF).

Another more general question would then be if it is possible to use the Hauppauge sensor with other remotes.

Sub, since GBPVR supports direct access to the Hauppauge remote, can you shed some light on how it is accessed? Is it like a serial interface? Can you use other remotes with it?

TIA,

Hansi
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2005-01-11, 03:47 PM
[b Wrote:Quote[/b] ]Sub, since GBPVR supports direct access to the Hauppauge remote, can you shed some light on how it is accessed? Is it like a serial interface? Can you use other remotes with it
In the Hauppauge case, its nothing flash. They've just got a .dll with three calls - Open(), GetCode(), Close() or something like that.
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2005-01-11, 03:53 PM
Thanks Sub!

Meanwhile I did some further digging and it seems the receiver can pick up RC5 signals (Philips), so it should be possible. Which .dll is it?

TIA,

Hansi
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2005-01-11, 04:22 PM
Its in irremote.dll. There is a really old post somewhere here on the forums with all the info. I saw it recently, but couldn't find it just then with a quick look.
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2005-01-11, 05:15 PM
Hi Sub,

Found it; it is indeed almost a year old. There is a link here but it is dead.

Any ideas?

TIA

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2005-01-11, 05:24 PM
The post will still be there, but when had to rebuild the forum database recently it broken links that had been posted. The post just has a different post number and forum id etc.
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2005-01-11, 07:29 PM
Ok Sub,

I have found it. It's in here.
There's lots of links to shspvr and Sage fora too. I don't know why google failed on me this time.

By the sound of it, it looks like it is relatively easy to get rid of winLIRC as well ;-). I'll give it a try.

Thanks for your prompt support (as usual).

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2005-01-12, 09:59 AM
In my case (and I suppose there are hundreds of people waiting same solution) I would like to use not Hauppauges ir receiver, but indeed WinLIRC / Lirc serial device. Why? Becuase currently I have Asus Pundit-R (http://www.asus.com/products/desktop/pun...erview.htm) which is almost perfect for HTPC (nice case with very low noise, but lacks WOL). I have only 1 PCI slot available for TV tuner (second PCI slot is reserved for other device). I need to have two tuners to record two shows simultanously, but no available second PCI, so I'd like to swap my PVR-150 to dual-turner PVR-500MCE. But MCE edition doesn't have Hauppauge's ir sensor. Or just maybe someone has for example Leadtek PVR2000 (blackbird cx88, should be supported by GBPVR), but its remote isn't supported by GBPVR and Girder isn't freeware any more. So the solution here would be using WinLIRC device (serialport ir receiver + WinLIRC daemon).

I my case I've built lirc device by myself, its raw material cost was about €3, its dimensions are about 3cm x 1cm x 5cm. It connects to serial port and is behind the htpc case, so it is not visible from front. It has so good sensitivity level, besides it is behind and not directly visible, there is no problems catching ir signals from my Sony and Leadtek and Orion remotes from about 3m in front of pc. Pointing angle is about 30 degrees. And what is the most important thing, if using TSOP 1738 (38kHz) IR sensor you could use almost any brand remote control to control WinLIRC. (I have tryed about 7 different remote controls which came with different home electronics devices, all could be learned by WinLIRC except one, which was Air Conditioning's) ;-)

So as I described it would be extremely important for me that GBPVR interacts with WinLIRC. If it is also so trivial, so why not to add support to it??? It then opens GBPVR to much wider audience than current non-MCE Hauppauges owners. IMHO.
--- GBPVR system ---
Server: homemade (ASUS MB, AMD x2 5200+, 4G RAM, 3.2TB RAID5, 1Gbit) + DVB-T Hauppauge HVR1300 (h264 TS) + IPTV
Clients: ASUS Pundit-R (P4 3.2GHz Northwood!, 1G RAM, zero HDD - netboot, WinLIRC to use Hauppauge remote on system without Hauppauge devices) + IBM ThinkPad T42 (pvr over 802.11g) + FSC N560 WM6 (802.11g) + etc Smile
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2005-01-12, 11:58 AM
Hi Lif,

I'm sorry that I got a bit carried away and basically stole the thread a bit ;-). I did not think of the fact that some Hauppauge card owners do not have the serial receiver and need something else. When you wrote you had WinLIRC I didn't get that you had a separate serial receiver like I do for now.

I'm not sure if it would be possible to build a WinLIRC client as a plugin to GBPVR or that a separate process is really required (this is the Girder way). I'm not sure what can be done inside a non-graphical plugin.

Maybe it is even possible to use the Hauppauge receiver with WinLIRC, which would give a uniform interface.

I did manage to receive Philips RC5 remote codes through the Hauppauge, so that option is still open.

I'll have a look into all this stuff tonight.
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