Cant get Redrat to work!

[sub]

I havnt used it myself in probably two years, so I'm not sure the built in stuff works anymore. That said, I know several people are using this device with GB-PVR, but I think they use the .exe channel changer with a command line app the redrat guys supply.

[Dava]

I havnt used it myself in probably two years, so I'm not sure the built in stuff works anymore. That said, I know several people are using this device with GB-PVR, but I think they use the .exe channel changer with a command line app the redrat guys supply.

Hi Sub,

Did you have any joy finding your Redrat3? Do you have any interest in making this work again?

If so, the manufacturer has offered to send you another one in an email to me.

I would really like to use it to control GBPVR so that PVRX2 does not have to have focus for the remote to work as it does with my current keyboard mappings.

I am using the Redrat to send to the STB using a command line util as the inbuilt RR3 support in GBPVR would not send 2 consecutive, same numbers. ie. 144 would be sent as 14.

I am happy to leave transmitting this way but I would really like to sort out the gbpvr control by RedRat, it is a great device.

[b00sfuk]

I am using the Redrat to send to the STB using a command line util as the inbuilt RR3 support in GBPVR would not send 2 consecutive, same numbers. ie. 144 would be sent as 14.

Odd, I use the inbuilt redrat3 support and I've never seen this problem. Find mine very reliable but again I use it only for blasting as I use iMON for the remote.

[sub]

I am using the Redrat to send to the STB using a command line util as the inbuilt RR3 support in GBPVR would not send 2 consecutive, same numbers. ie. 144 would be sent as 14.

Hmm, I wonder how the redrat copes with IR toggle bits. Some manufactures of cable or satellite set top boxes make it use an ir toggle bit that is changed each time a duplicate subsequent digit's IR signal is sent. For example the first time you press '4' on your remote might generate something like '010101010' press and release '4' again and it'll generate '010101011' (ie, a bit toggled). The do this to clearly identify one key press from another.

The USB-UIRT had some option that coped with this without GB-PVR having to do anything. I'm not sure if the redrat does or not.

You may find you're just unlucky having a set top box that does this, while Dava and other redrat users dont have this problem because their set top boxes dont use toggle bits.

[onestar]

I use the command line to send it, because -- if I remember right -- I send a power on, backup, backup, backup, channel numbers, backup (power up, and/or get out of any menus) - command and I use it to control the sky+ and sky normal boxes. I don't recall if I couldn't do it with GBPVR, but then as usual once it works, I leave it alone.

Sub, the RedRat can record the signal the remote sends and so I would guess can cope with the toggled bits on that basis - but I just cant remember how GBPVR was set to use redrat!

[sub]

Sub, the RedRat can record the signal the remote sends and so I would guess can cope with the toggled bits on that basis

Thats exactly the problem I'm talking about. It records the toggle as it was at the time it was when you pushed the button to learn the signal, so when it plays back the signal the toggle bit is always set that same way. It doesnt know which bit of the data to change when it has to send that same digit twice in a row. You'd really need to learn two button presses so you'd capture the toggle bit both ways.

[onestar]

Thats exactly the problem I'm talking about. It records the toggle as it was at the time it was when you pushed the button to learn the signal, so when it plays back the signal the toggle bit is always set that same way. It doesnt know which bit of the data to change when it has to send that same digit twice in a row. You'd really need to learn two button presses so you'd capture the toggle bit both ways.

That all rings a bell, but I can't find where that was set. Scanning the redrat forums, it seems the redrat does support the toggling of bits, I think it even learns that behaviour when capturing the signal, but the discussions were around 2004

[Dava]

Thats exactly the problem I'm talking about. It records the toggle as it was at the time it was when you pushed the button to learn the signal, so when it plays back the signal the toggle bit is always set that same way. It doesnt know which bit of the data to change when it has to send that same digit twice in a row. You'd really need to learn two button presses so you'd capture the toggle bit both ways.

When capturing with the Redrat control software, you have an option to enable 2 signals per keypress, which sounds like your toggle bit.

I have no problems with the learning/blasting now though, I would just really like gbpvr to respond to input without having focus.

If someone still has problems learning/blasting, you can export the remote data as an XML from the Redrat Control S/W or Signal Database and then paste it into GBPVRs 0.XML,1.XML etc.