GBPVR Legacy DYING w/v1.2.9 - EWA, Streaming & Filesharing Probs

[geekdout]

BEWARE of the latest v1.2.9 upgrade IF you're still running the legacy GBPVR that provides Video Out on a Hauppauge PVR-350. I know it's going to be totally unsupported one day, but didn't realize that this is the release that would kill it for me.

I just lost almost six hours of my life trying to upgrade to the latest GBPVR. After getting a good GBPVR updated version download (first had corrupted CAB), the install appeared to go OK. GBPVR was slow starting, but I'd seen that before. I also attributed it to installing VLC and making some config changes to start streaming my video. However, it starting getting SLOWER on subsequent attempts. Then, the Hauppauge PVR350 TV output started getting glitchy - no audio, black/white picture, then the system finally threw a blue screen of death on the PVR driver. A power-off reset fixed that, but the slow GBPVR start continued, until it wouldn't finish starting AT ALL. A look at Task Manager showed a SYSTEM process taking 99% of the CPU, whereas the GBPVR.exe was taking 0.

First I backed out my streaming config changes and set the GBPVR recording service to interact with the desktop. I ran a virus scan, deleted lots of old programs, then deleted the MS Windows Live OneCare, and rebooted lots of times. None of this helped. GBPVR would actually fail to start, and the process COULD NOT be killed in the Task Manager. The GBPVR splash screen would go away, but the EXE still showed in the list, and the strange SYSTEM process kept using 99% CPU.

I de-installed and re-installed v1.2.9, still didn't work. So, I removed the latest GBPVR version and went back to what I had (v1.0.16), and then the legacy GBPVR fired up almost instantly. CPU is normal again.

I was trying to run GBPVR legacy for my SD TV's on my home's cable distribution, then simultaneously stream over my home network to another PC with a badass graphics card I have connected to my new HD 1080P TV. I thought the new PVRX2 in v1.2.9 would be better for that, and guessed that the primary system with the PVR-350 in it should be running the same version.

Now that I'm back on the older GBPVR, I suppose I should load v1.0.16 on the remote PC and try to configure for streaming again. I'm connected using wireless G to my router/access point at 54MB.

I'm confused on which version of EWA to load. Does it come with the GBPVR distro already config'd, or do you need to delete all that web stuff and re-install EWA from the download? It had been bringing up the TV Schedule from the v1.0.16 system using PVRX2 running v.1.2.9, but actual streaming would fail with the undefined browser error.

It appears that you can either run as a GBPVR client, OR stream. So far neither has worked. I have noticed that I can push a 1.5GB file UP to the primary system over the network (shared drive mapping) in a couple of minutes, but that copying the same file back to the remote machine takes a couple of hours. I imagine that this kills any sort of filesharing video playback. Has anybody ever seen this before, or have a fix to try?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[sub]

BEWARE of the latest v1.2.9 upgrade IF you're still running the legacy GBPVR that provides Video Out on a Hauppauge PVR-350. I know it's going to be totally unsupported one day, but didn't realize that this is the release that would kill it for me.

Just so you know, GBPVR.exe has seen its last release. It will not be included in any future releases. The PVR350 TV-out has not been supported in a very long time now (over two years), so if its continued to work for you since then you've just been lucky.

I'm confused on which version of EWA to load. Does it come with the GBPVR distro already config'd, or do you need to delete all that web stuff and re-install EWA from the download?

GB-PVR includes a recent EWA. I cant remember the specific version number off the top of my head but it was the current EWA release about 8 weeks ago.

It had been bringing up the TV Schedule from the v1.0.16 system using PVRX2 running v.1.2.9, but actual streaming would fail with the undefined browser error.

It appears that you can either run as a GBPVR client, OR stream. So far neither has worked. I have noticed that I can push a 1.5GB file UP to the primary system over the network (shared drive mapping) in a couple of minutes, but that copying the same file back to the remote machine takes a couple of hours. I imagine that this kills any sort of filesharing video playback. Has anybody ever seen this before, or have a fix to try?

I have no idea what you're trying to ask. You'll need to state the question with more detail, and if appropriate also post the logs.

[geekdout]

OK. I first tried to simply run a media player on the remote PC to play one of my GBPVR MPG recordings over a network share, and it wouldn't play smoothly at all. That's when I noticed the difference in file transfer speeds depending on the direction of the transfer. Slow from primary to remote, fast from remote to primary.

When I originally troubleshooted this, the remote system was actually hardwired to the network running at 100 MB (so is the GBPVR primary system with the PV-350). At that time I updated my NIC driver and played with duplex on the remote PC. The driver update helped a little, but didn't fix the issue (transfers still too slow). I knew that I was going wireless anyways, and hoped that if it were something in the NIC/driver that maybe using a different one would help, and that 54 MB would be fast enough for streaming video from my GBPVR primary system.

So at this point, I thought maybe GBPVR streaming was the answer to get video playback on the remote. I loaded PVRX2 (GBPVR v1.2.9) on a remote computer in my home and connected at 54 MB wireless G to a fileshare on the PC with the PVR-350 in it running v1.0.16.

PVRX2 on the remote PC configured as a client would show the MyVideo listings, but couldn't playback anything from my video library on the primary system - the action would just cause a blink after a moment and return to the menu.

Next I tried streaming by installing v1.2.9 on the primary PC along with VLC, configuring the GBPVR streaming options, and launching EWA on the remote. EWA would display the GBPVR TV guide, but an attempt to actually stream a video would popup an error in the browser:

Runtime Error
Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine.

I tried to make the recommended change to get more detail on the error message, but then got caught up in the bigger issue (for me) of GBPVR legacy not starting - and had to leave the streaming troubleshooting for later.

So my next step is to try streaming again using EWA and v1.0.16 installed on both the remote and primary PC's. I suppose I'll start by not running either GBPVR OR PVRX2 on the primary, just the recording service with the streaming config. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[sub]

When I originally troubleshooted this, the remote system was actually hardwired to the network running at 100 MB (so is the GBPVR primary system with the PV-350). At that time I updated my NIC driver and played with duplex on the remote PC. The driver update helped a little, but didn't fix the issue (transfers still too slow). I knew that I was going wireless anyways, and hoped that if it were something in the NIC/driver that maybe using a different one would help, and that 54 MB would be fast enough for streaming video from my GBPVR primary system.

So at this point, I thought maybe GBPVR streaming was the answer to get video playback on the remote

Unfortunately thats not going to be the case. If you cant play a file off a network share smoothly, then you've not going to have enough bandwidth to play a file using a GB-PVR client in streaming mode since it requires more bandwidth (lots of reason we dont need to go into).

PVRX2 on the remote PC configured as a client would show the MyVideo listings, but couldn't playback anything from my video library on the primary system - the action would just cause a blink after a moment and return to the menu.

If you reproduce this problem then post the pvrx2.exe.log and pvrx2.exe-native.log then I'll take a look.

Next I tried streaming by installing v1.2.9 on the primary PC along with VLC, configuring the GBPVR streaming options, and launching EWA on the remote. EWA would display the GBPVR TV guide, but an attempt to actually stream a video would popup an error in the browser:

Runtime Error
Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine.

Sorry, I've never used EWA's web streaming, so I cant answer any questions about it. You'd probably best to ask that question in the EWA sub forum.

[geekdout]

OK, went back to GBPVR v1.0.16 on both Primary and Remote PCs, recording server only running on Primary (server). Now I can't even get PVRX2 to run! I get an MS .NET Framework popup error message:

Unhandled exception has occurred in a component in your application... Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

The details:

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at GBPVRX2.x0061b801bdf12d35.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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PVRX2
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CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/devnz/gbpvr/pvrx2.exe
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GBPVRPublic
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jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
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For example:

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When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
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PVRX2 hangs and won't let me out, I have to kill the process via Taskmanager. I checked the PVRX2 logs, and there's nothing in them (zero file size, empty). Note that when I was running v1.2.9 on the remote and v1.0.16 on the server this didn't happen. I would get the PVRX2 display and maneuver through menus, I just couldn't get a video to actually play back. Please advise.

Thx!

[sub]

Does the config app run?

[geekdout]

NEVERMIND! My network fileshare to the GBPVR db was disconnected. So, I'm back to where PVRX2 starts and I can see the libraries config'd for either fileshare or streaming mode, but they won't play. Fileshare mode dumps me back to the menu, but streaming gives me a show description and the comskip/file length/play progress display - but no video. I was going to send the logs, but I've got them set to verbose and they're HUGE. Surely you don't want me to post all of that. Should I crank them back to info or other lower setting, and try to attach them to the post instead of inserting them into the reply?

Thx!

[sub]

Zip and attach the complete logs and I'll take a look.

[geekdout]

Thanks for checking these out! They include PVRX2 v1.0.16 remote PC attempts to play video config'd both for filesharing AND streaming. BTW, EWA streaming is working. Not full screen or the best resolution and VLC client player dies occasionally, but it IS working otherwise almost as good as HULU over my 54 MBs wifi link. File transfer speeds between primary and remote are still asymetrical depending on direction.

[sub]

I cant see an attempt to play a file in those logs. Can you enable log flushing, then reproduce the error and repost the logs?