2250 setup issues

[Jovec]

I have 4 capture sources defined for this card, from top to bottom

Qam2 (set to device 2)
NTSC2 (set to device 2)
QAM1 (set to device 1)
NTSC1 (set to device 1)

EPG is setup and digital channels are mapped so that, for example, QAM channel 2 appears in the QAM1/2 entires but is disabled in NTSC1/2. Conversely, NTSC channels with no QAM equivalent are disabled in Qam1/2. The end result is that when switching channels I view analog or digital as appropriate for that channel and it seems to work as expected.

Assuming my sources have been setup correctly, GB-PVR does not seem to know that QAM2 and NTSC2 are the same tuner (same with 1). I can watch one channel on tuner 1, record another on tuner 2, and then GB-PVR thinks it can record a third. I thought this was addressed in 1.3.7?

I've also thought about working around this using my 1250 for QAM, with something like the following setup, with the understanding that I could only watch or record one QAM channel:

1250-QAM
2250-NTSC2
2250-NTSC1

However, I'd like to be able to add channels, such that channel 2 would be NTSC while adding a 2.1 (number arbitrary, I'd probably use 402 to mimic the local cable HD channel listings) would be QAM, and both channels would be visible in the channel guide and have (the same) guide data. By mapping the QAM channels, I'd be limited to one QAM tuner for certain channels and two NTSC tuners for the rest, which doesn't pass the wife test (the ability to watch and record varies by what channels you are trying to use). Or to rephrase, I'd like to have all NTSC channels available to the two 2250 NTSC tuners will also have the 8 QAM channels available to the 1250 shown and listed in the guide (next to their NTSC equivalents, at the end, whatever).

[whurlston]

What are you using for your EPG source? Using chedules Direct, I created two lineups: one for the analog cable and one for the digital cable. I disabled all the channels on the digital lineup that I don't get in clear QAM, and then in the EPG setup for GBPVR, I limited each tuner to get the lineup they need. So for my QAM tuners, I set the epg username to be "username;KY16673:X" and for my analog tuners, I set the epg username to be "username;KY16673:-".

Doing it this way, my channel numbers match the channel numbers that are on the cable box. Now when I want to record 906 (NBC-HD in QAM), it will only be recorded on the digital tuners but recording 6 (NBC analog) will be done on the analog tuners.

I can watch one channel on tuner 1, record another on tuner 2, and then GB-PVR thinks it can record a third. I thought this was addressed in 1.3.7?

This is entirely possible with the new multirecord feature if you have more than one digital channel on the same frequency. I can record shows on CBS-HD and NBC-HD simultaneously using only one tuner. You can have anywhere from 2 HD channels (and possibly an SD channel) to 12 or 13 SD channels on a single frequency.

[Jovec]

What are you using for your EPG source? Using chedules Direct, I created two lineups: one for the analog cable and one for the digital cable. I disabled all the channels on the digital lineup that I don't get in clear QAM, and then in the EPG setup for GBPVR, I limited each tuner to get the lineup they need. So for my QAM tuners, I set the epg username to be "username;KY16673:X" and for my analog tuners, I set the epg username to be "username;KY16673:-".

Doing it this way, my channel numbers match the channel numbers that are on the cable box. Now when I want to record 906 (NBC-HD in QAM), it will only be recorded on the digital tuners but recording 6 (NBC analog) will be done on the analog tuners.

I'll take a look at schedules direct (which is what I use) since from your post is seems like you can define additional channel lineups. This would work for me in my second scenario.

This is entirely possible with the new multirecord feature if you have more than one digital channel on the same frequency. I can record shows on CBS-HD and NBC-HD simultaneously using only one tuner. You can have anywhere from 2 HD channels (and possibly an SD channel) to 12 or 13 SD channels on a single frequency.

I don't think this is what I am running into unless I need to disable some setting to keep it from trying (besides disabling multi-record support on the Misc2 tab). If you refer to the ordering in my original post, recording status will show Tuner 1/NTSC in use (watching), then Tuner 2/QAM (recording), then if I try to record a third (which I shouldn't be able to do), if the 3rd is QAM it will use Tuner 1/QAM (thus killing my current stream) or if the 3rd is NTSC it will use Tuner 2/NTSC and thus killing my first record. I believe it comes down to GB-PVR thinking all four tuners are available at all times, instead of just any two.

[Jovec]

What are you using for your EPG source? Using chedules Direct, I created two lineups: one for the analog cable and one for the digital cable. I disabled all the channels on the digital lineup that I don't get in clear QAM, and then in the EPG setup for GBPVR, I limited each tuner to get the lineup they need. So for my QAM tuners, I set the epg username to be "username;KY16673:X" and for my analog tuners, I set the epg username to be "username;KY16673:-"

Feeling a bit novice here, but what are the parameters for referencing any additional lineups you have defined?

username;
KY - state code?
16673 - zip code?
[x/-] - ?

Can they be referenced by the SD name or type?

Update: Feeling even more novice, answer is here: http://gbpvr.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Manua...irect#toc6

[whurlston]

I'll take a look at schedules direct (which is what I use) since from your post is seems like you can define additional channel lineups. This would work for me in my second scenario.




I don't think this is what I am running into unless I need to disable some setting to keep it from trying (besides disabling multi-record support on the Misc2 tab). If you refer to the ordering in my original post, recording status will show Tuner 1/NTSC in use (watching), then Tuner 2/QAM (recording), then if I try to record a third (which I shouldn't be able to do), if the 3rd is QAM it will use Tuner 1/QAM (thus killing my current stream) or if the 3rd is NTSC it will use Tuner 2/NTSC and thus killing my first record. I believe it comes down to GB-PVR thinking all four tuners are available at all times, instead of just any two.

That's definitely not the multirecord then. There is a setting in the bda.ini and direct.ini files that was needed to tell GBPVR that the tuners were shared. It was missing in one of them in the last version of GBPVR but 1.3.11 should have it corrected. I'll need to search for it though.

Feeling a bit novice here, but what are the parameters for referencing any additional lineups you have defined?

username;
KY - state code?
16673 - zip code?
[x/-] - ?

Can they be referenced by the SD name or type?

When you are logged into your SD account, if you click on "Edit" for a lineup the url in the address bar will change to something like this:

Code:

http://www.schedulesdirect.org/lineups/edit/[B][color=Red]KY16673:-[/color][/B]

In the username box in the GBPVR Config, append a semi-colon ( ; ) and everything after the last slash from that url. That is the provider ID for that lineup. The "X" usually means a "Digital Rebuild" of the cable lineup.

By adding this parameter in your EPG setup, GBPVR will only load the enabled channels for that lineup into that capture source. I recommend removing the capture source and recreating it when you do this.

[Jovec]

That's definitely not the multirecord then. There is a setting in the bda.ini and direct.ini files that was needed to tell GBPVR that the tuners were shared. It was missing in one of them in the last version of GBPVR but 1.3.11 should have it corrected. I'll need to search for it though.

Would it be the "SHARED_NAME=Hauppauge HVR2250" parameter? It's located in bda.ini for 2250 and 2250 (QAM) and direct.ini

When you are logged into your SD account, if you click on "Edit" for a lineup the url in the address bar will change to something like this:

Code:

http://www.schedulesdirect.org/lineups/edit/[B][color=Red]KY16673:-[/color][/B]

In the username box in the GBPVR Config, append a semi-colon ( ; ) and everything after the last slash from that url. That is the provider ID for that lineup. The "X" usually means a "Digital Rebuild" of the cable lineup.

By adding this parameter in your EPG setup, GBPVR will only load the enabled channels for that lineup into that capture source. I recommend removing the capture source and recreating it when you do this.

Thanks, found it in the wiki too.

[whurlston]

Would it be the "SHARED_NAME=Hauppauge HVR2250" parameter? It's located in bda.ini for 2250 and 2250 (QAM) and direct.ini

Yeah, that's it. If you already have it in your ini files, post a set of logs after reproducing the problem.

[Jovec]

Yeah, that's it. If you already have it in your ini files, post a set of logs after reproducing the problem.

"SHARED_NAME=Hauppauge HVR2250" is in both bda.ini and direct.ini. I'm using a beta driver version 7.5.25.27007 if this could be a driver issue, but I suspect it's not.

Log dir attached. Watched one NTSC source (Inside the NBA), recored a QAM source (Private Practice), recorded a NTSC source (Reno 911 - on the same tuner as the QAM source). No program errors, though the Reno 911 NTSC recording is a 0-byte file. Also, I reversed the tuner order in my original post: from top to bottom it is: Tuner1/Qam, Tuner1/NTSC, Tuner2/QAM, Tuner2/NTSC.

[whurlston]

I can't see anything obvious in the log so we'll probably have to wait for sub to take a look at the logs. I believe that it should have kicked you out of live TV in this instance so it could use the tuner because recordings take priority. I'm pretty sure that's how it's supposed to work but I've never run into the problem so I can't say for sure (I have too many tuners).

[Jovec]

Anyone else having issues where GBPVR treats the 2250 as having 4 available tuners at all times instead of any given two?