Same tuner different EPG configuration which one does the TV guide use?

[dennit]

Ok. If those are the rules then I will make sure to follow them.
Based on this it seems the only way to keep two EPG sources for one tuner where both contain their entire EPG channels database would be to keep two separate copies of the "config.xml" and "gbpvr.db3" files one set of files per each of your EPG source configuration per your one tuner. Is this correct?

Thanks for your responses.

I'm not sure I was clear. I had one EPG file per tuner, but the tuners could receive some of the same channels. That gave me some channels that had two different (and sometimes conflicting) sets of guide data. Ideally, each channel will be found in only one EPG file, but it doesn't matter which EPG file that data is in.

Your situation is different. You're referring to "two EPG sources for one tuner where both contain their entire EPG channels database." If the "entire EPG channels database" is the same from the two sources for that tuner, you don't need two sources of data, only one. Just turn off the second one. The first one will contain all the program data for all the channels available from that tuner/source.

If the two EPG files for your single tuner differ in some way, try to reduce one or both sets of data so no channels overlap. If you can't, you'll get some overlap artifacts in the guide. It won't really hurt anything other than appearance.

I read your initial post, but I'm not sure why you want guide data from both MCE and TitanTV. I'd just choose one or the other. If you really want both, then the best option would be to rename the channels. Then GBPVR would think both AnimalPlanet1 and AnimalPlanet2 are available on the single tuner. It would show both AnimalPlanet1 and AnimalPlanet2 in the guide with the guide data for AnimalPlanet1 from MCE and the guide data for AnimalPlanet2 from TitanTV. You'd choose which one you want to record/watch via the guide. MC2XML has the ability to rename channels to do this.

[johnsonx42]

Ok. If those are the rules then I will make sure to follow them.
Based on this it seems the only way to keep two EPG sources for one tuner where both contain their entire EPG channels database would be to keep two seperate copies of the "config.xml" and "gbpvr.db3" files one set of files per each of your EPG source configuration per your one tuner. Is this correct?

I suppose, but I'm not sure HOW you would do that or what purpose it would serve. Every time you switched database files, GB-PVR would forget about everything that had been done in the other database - all recordings, both completed and scheduled would be gone. I guess you could make sure to schedule everything in both databases, and import the recordings-dump every time you switch, but still it would be a real mess.... and to what end?

Maybe it would help us help you if you'd better explain what you are trying to accomplish, and why.

[eramos581]

Your situation is different. You're referring to "two EPG sources for one tuner where both contain their entire EPG channels database." If the "entire EPG channels database" is the same from the two sources for that tuner, you don't need two sources of data, only one. Just turn off the second one. The first one will contain all the program data for all the channels available from that tuner/source.

How do I TURN OFF the 2nd (both EPG sources would bee seen in the configuration) or the other EPG source without having to keep 2 seperate "config.xml" and "gbpvr.db3" files when I only want to use the first for the TV guide but don't want to delete the 2nd EPG source (in case I want to use the 2nd later for the TV guide)

Thanks.

[eramos581]

The reason I was trying to get 2 EPG sources for one tuner was that I thought that the titantv grabbed EPG data would be different to the extent the ASTC data would be related to the sub-channels of the form "X.y" something like 7.2 (what you see in the titan California area listings)rather than what is grabbed for the MCE listings (not in the "X.y" form).
I was hoping that when I brought in the titantv EPG data, the local channels (X.y form) would be more closely related to the titan EPG channel names in order to minimize what I need to do manually when setting up OTA channels.
My thought was that if I could do this I could switch back and forth between the EPG sources for the same tuner with both EPG sources containing all of the OTA channels. Was I mistaken in thinking I could do this?

Thanks

[dennit]

How do I TURN OFF the 2nd (both EPG sources would bee seen in the configuration) or the other EPG source without having to keep 2 seperate "config.xml" and "gbpvr.db3" files when I only want to use the first for the TV guide but don't want to delete the 2nd EPG source (in case I want to use the 2nd later for the TV guide)

Thanks.

If you later want to use a different EPG, then later you can just change the EPG source for this one tuner.

[dennit]

The reason I was trying to get 2 EPG sources for one tuner was that I thought that the titantv grabbed EPG data would be different to the extent the ASTC data would be related to the sub-channels of the form "X.y" something like 7.2 (what you see in the titan California area listings)rather than what is grabbed for the MCE listings (not in the "X.y" form).
I was hoping that when I brought in the titantv EPG data, the local channels (X.y form) would be more closely related to the titan EPG channel names in order to minimize what I need to do manually when setting up OTA channels.
My thought was that if I could do this I could switch back and forth between the EPG sources for the same tuner with both EPG sources containing all of the OTA channels. Was I mistaken in thinking I could do this?

Thanks

I don't use TitanTV, but if it has better data or a simpler format, then use it instead of MCE. If some channels are better on it, then use it only for those channels. You only have problems when the same channel with the same name is listed in multiple EPG sources.
If you want to see both Titan TV and MCE listings, then make sure the channel names differ - as I suggested above. Then there will be no overlap.

[stustunz]

the stations would have to be named different
i have no idea what they are called over there but an example would be
tv1 and tvone even thought they are the same gbovr can tell the difference so would see them as 2 different stations
but if you have
tv2 from one epg source and the name from the second source was the same ie tv2 then its not going to work because gbpvr sees them as the same

[eramos581]

If you later want to use a different EPG, then later you can just change the EPG source for this one tuner.

If I changed the EPG source for the single tuner won't the EPG source channel names change forcing me to have to again manually realign my local OTA channels to the different EPG source names?

This is the reason I had stated to avoid this I would keep 2 separate "config.xml" and "gbpvr.db3" files, that way every time I wanted to use a different EPG source for my TV guide I wouldn't be forced to manually align my local channels to the EPG source channel names.

Are you saying there is a way to bring up new EPG source channel names without to re-align again my local channels to that new EPG source all for the same tuner?

Thank you
and to all the others that provided responses and recommendations.
Very much appreciated.

[dennit]

If I changed the EPG source for the single tuner won't the EPG source channel names change forcing me to have to again manually realign my local OTA channels to the different EPG source names?

GBPVR matches the name in the EPG to the name stored in gbpvr.db3. If the channel names defined in the two EPGs differ, then you are correct - you'd have to deal with that, but it's pretty easy to do without doing a "manually realign". One of your EPG sources is MC2XML, and it has a rename function for each channel. Just use the names from the other source, then make sure that the names that MC2XML uses are adjusted to match.

This is the reason I had stated to avoid this I would keep 2 separate "config.xml" and "gbpvr.db3" files, that way every time I wanted to use a different EPG source for my TV guide I wouldn't be forced to manually align my local channels to the EPG source channel names.

Not necessary - see above. There is lots of info stored in gbpvr.db3, so using this method would create all kinds of trouble for you.

Are you saying there is a way to bring up new EPG source channel names without to re-align again my local channels to that new EPG source all for the same tuner?

Yes.

I have to say, I'm still not clear on why you want to switch between EPGs. I've told you how to do it, but why bother? If one of the EPGs has some extra channels or better info for some channels, you can use that EPG for just those channels.

For that matter, why not just set up both guides for use all the time? You just need to use the MC2XML rename function to make sure there are no overlaps on any channel names. Then you can view both EPGs at all times. This is the opposite of what I described above where you have to make sure that all the names overlap, but you never have them both active at the same time.