Can I have one computer that is a client for 2 computers each running NPVR?
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2014-09-04, 10:28 PM
steeb Wrote:Thanks Reddwarf. I was going to post a link on this thread to NEWA Gadget on Wiki. But the NextPVR Wiki for me now seems to have disappeared?The link you posted works fine for me - maybe a temporary glitch? Alex ACTCMS Wrote:The link you posted works fine for me - maybe a temporary glitch? Thanks Alex, 2 browsers get a blank. A lot of CPU intensive stuff my end! Temporary glitch then! Reboot required. Sorry to go off topic. PC playing up. [SIZE="1"]When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.[/SIZE]
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2014-09-04, 11:40 PM
Would it not be better to forget about gbpvr and only refer to http://www.nextpvr.com?
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2014-09-05, 08:26 PM
Update
This is a long post that is probably written more for future people who have a similar situation to mine, search the forum and read this thread than it is for the current viewers. My last post indicated I was going to try a dual-pronged approach: 1) Attempt to get 2 instances of NPVR that could be configured independently, and 2) See if XP Mode could provide a solution. 1) I wanted to end up with the following scenario: C:\Program Files (x86)\NPVR\NextPVR.exe ----> C:\Users\Public\NPVR and C:\Program Files (x86)\NPVR2\NextPVR.exe ----> C:\Users\Public\NPVR2 I knew the issue was going to be the registry tree/branch where the directions are held that would connect NextPVR.exe in NPVR to C:\Users\Public\NPVR and connect NextPVR.exe in NPVR2 to C:\Users\Public\NPVR2 Once I installed NPVR a second time, created C:\Users\Public\NPVR2 and copied the info over, I headed to the registry. Swinging like a blindfolded child at a pinata, I deleted, copied, created and moved keys and strings. It didn't work. FAIL. Then I thought perhaps I could install my 2nd NPVR as a different user. NPVR installation doesn't allow you to select anything to do with users upon installation. Then I logged in under a different user and tried to install. None of these attempts allowed me a second registry entry. No matter what, it is going to create HKLM\Software\WOW6432Node\NPVR (on my 64) and nowhere else. FAIL Then I figured perhaps the installation instructions could be found inside the installation file. I used 7-zip to extract the contents looking for the directions to place the data directory at C:\Users\Public\NPVR, thinking if I could change those instructions, perhaps I get a 2nd instance to look somewhere else for the data. I found nothing in the extracted file that would help. FAIL 2) My next attempt was to use the virtual XP machine that comes with W7 Pro. I installed NPVR on XP. That was not easy as a bunch of prerequisites are required, but I finally got it in. I never configured NPVR in XP so I used SAF to do that for me. That wasn't the easiest process in the world, but I finally got that sorted. I then configured the rest of the config file. I closed the virtual machine, went to W7 and launched NPVR XP Mode. I was not happy with the picture, the audio or the stability so I gave up before trying to punch Ntray through to the W7 taskbar. Could have been my inability to configure NPVR on XP or it might have been the reality of the situation. FAIL. OTOH, I am extremely satisfied with where I have ended up. I have created 2 batch files that insert one of 2 config files into the data directory (one for each computer). The batch file then closes and restarts Ntray. One batch file loads computer #1 info and Ntray shows me whether that computer is busy. The other batch loads computer #2 info and now Ntray is showing if that computer is busy. Once I see an unbusy computer, I launch NPVR and it is a client to an available NPVR. If both are busy, the client is not in my near future. Of course, the batch files are launched with a shortcut. Takes about 5 seconds. SUCCESS When I started this thread, I wasn't sure what the answer would be or if there was an answer, but I must say I am extremely satisfied with where I ended up. Thanks everybody, I couldn't have done it without your input.
2014-09-05, 09:05 PM
Having two .reg files still sounds way easier to me. That's the only way to switch from using NPVR to NPVR2 You's still have to restart ntray though.
Martin
2014-09-06, 02:37 PM
Martin,
To tell the truth, my first run at the batch file was going to change the registry as you suggest with 1 of 2 .reg files. I don't understand, however, how to suppress the notification windows. Notification windows are a nogo in this situation. Since I knew I could silently pull off the xcopy command I just did it that way. If you know how to set the batch to eliminate the notification window for the .reg file, perhaps that is a more streamlined solution and a little quicker to initially set up, but since a batch file is actually doing the work, on an ongoing basis, I'm not sure "easier" is the right word.
2014-09-06, 04:23 PM
IanSpringfield Wrote:Martin, You'd need to create an elevated shortcut not quite as simple but beats creating an XP VM. Martin
2014-09-06, 05:07 PM
Actually, the XP VM already exists and I do use it for some purposes. The NPVR exercise was just an attempt to use it for another purpose. Didn't work nearly as well as a native install on W7 (and I'm sure on a regular XP machine). But for a program that will not run in W7 or you need to lay your eyes on XP, it's a great feature.
My choice was just to use xcopy because I'm not as knowledgeable about elevated shortcuts whereas I can create a batch file to copy and replace silently with my eyes closed.
Hi IanSpringfield,
A bit off topic but anyways... I have four instances of NextPVR and one old GB-PVR up and running for various reasons, spread on different computers. I have a NMT (Popcorn Hour A100) configured to show a menu at startup where I easily can choose to connect to any of the servers. Nowadays I usually use my Smart TV app (available for LG and Samsung) as NextPVR client. Switching between servers is just a few button clicks to change IP-address. It may sound awkward to change the IP-address in settings to connect to different servers but it's not. If it had been, I would have added switching between servers into the app long time ago. /Fred
2014-09-07, 03:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 2014-09-07, 04:12 PM by IanSpringfield.)
Note: I'm not a computer programmer. I fool around with things like HTPC/NPVR/etc. as a hobby because I find it both cool and convenient. It is very possible to speak in a way that I cannot understand.
Extremely interesting post and I have some questions: fred250 Wrote:Hi IanSpringfield, When you say you have multiple instances, are you saying you are running more than 1 instance on a single computer and they can be configured independently? Because, initially, I thought/hoped that would be the answer to my situation. fred250 Wrote:Hi IanSpringfield, OOOOOOO, that seems exactly what I want. An initial screen that shows me the servers, shows me the current recording status of each (ie, NTray status) and lets me choose which one to connect to. That would be beyond my wildest dream when I started this thread. Unfortunately, I'm talking about a regular old client PC and not an extender/PCH. I wouldn't suppose the capability is transferable? Even if it is, I would guess I'm not capable of the transfer. fred250 Wrote:Hi IanSpringfield, I just noticed your LG app thread and read the first and last pages. I've got a 2012 LG 7600 smart TV. I think that may work. You mention that I have to email you for the installation files. Can I consider this post a request? Can you private email me through the forum or do I need a separate email, and, if so, what email address do I send the request to? Also, I agree, it would be great if sub incorporated your PCH step directly into NPVR. Thanks for taking the time to post |
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