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Moving from TiVo to GB-PVR: Keeping Accustomed Features

 
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Moving from TiVo to GB-PVR: Keeping Accustomed Features
Echoloc8
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2007-01-25, 12:45 AM
Hi, all, I've been a (very) happy GB-PVR user for about a month now. Sub's and everyone's achievements with this PVR app are simply incredible. I'm hesitant even to ask for enhancements, given how busy Sub must be working on his to-do list already, but not so hesitant as to fail to ask, just in case they're being worked on already, or trigger grand designs in Sub's brain.

I'm moving from my collection of two TiVos to a dual-tuner GB-PVR box--TiVo's rate hikes, DRM and general inflexibility finally got me moving. Big Grin I've already deactivated one TiVo box (the lesser-used one), but before I can really get rid of my old-primary box, I would really like to get a few features rocking that TiVo offers, in order of preference:

1. Recording prioritization. I know that XRecord / CDKScheduler offer this, but I haven't been able to get them working properly, despite patching to Wiki specifications, with the few hours I've put in. Plus, the XRecord interface can be a little cryptic/dated-looking, and can go out of compatibility whenever GB-PVR itself is updated. I know that recording prioritization is on Sub's list of coming features--put this as an additional request!

2. "Keep until I delete" functionality within Recordings. It looks like the Video Archive plugin offers this, sort-of (saved recordings get moved to Videos, right?), but I'd really like some sort of inbuilt delete-protection flag within the default Recordings interface, and selectable when setting up a recording.

3. "Future" keyword searches, i.e., TiVo Wishlists. The ability to put in a title/description/actor/director string that will trigger recordings in guide data that hasn't been downloaded yet. Does XRecord offer this? I haven't been able to tell.

4. Timed re-record protection. If a TiVo records an episode of a show because of a Season Pass (recurring recording), it will, by default, decline to record that episode again for 28 days, to the extent guide data quality makes it possible, unless overridden by a specific request for that episode. I know GB-PVR will do its best not to record dupes of shows in Recordings (and do so better when using Zap2It), but if I delete Episode A of Show 123, and episode A re-airs the day after I delete it, then based on my experience A will be recorded again.

5. "Channel-less" recurring recordings. Basically the ability to record a show no matter which channel it's being shown on. XRecord again?

6. Expanded definition of "conflicts." It seems that GB-PVR is conservative in flagging conflicts: with 10 or more recurring recordings defined, I've only got two or three conflicts to resolve, and I know there must be more overlapping timeslots than that among the shows I've got set up. I'd expect several dozen conflicts. The expanded "to-do list" below would list all shows not being recorded because of timeslot collisions.

7. "To-Do List" view of upcoming recordings. Including reasons for recent-past and near-future shows not being recorded, like "higher priority show in same timeslot," "canceled by user," "DVR not powered on" or what have you. The "Pending" portion of Recordings comes close, but more info would be lovely.

GB-PVR does the vast majority of what I'd like it to do right now; if both my TiVos were to vanish tomorrow, I'd get by with my GB-PVR box just dandily. Cool These features, though, would ease life considerably for me and for other TiVo expats.

-Rich
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2007-01-25, 12:50 AM
Quote:1. Recording prioritization.
5. "Channel-less" recurring recordings
I will be doing this some these some time in the near'ish future.

Quote:2. "Keep until I delete" functionality within Recordings.
3. "Future" keyword searches, i.e., TiVo Wishlists.
4. Timed re-record protection
Sorry, I probably wont be doing any of these any time soon. Maybe some day though. There maybe plugins that offer these features - I'm not sure though.
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2007-01-25, 04:55 AM
Quote:3. "Future" keyword searches, i.e., TiVo Wishlists.
This is an EWA Wishlist of mine too.

From (9th Point Down)

"Save search query feature that can be configured to provide feedback on login about show now being found. (ref) (ref) (ref) (ref)"

See this thread too which I can now re-activate!

Give UJB a wee "tickle-along".

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2007-01-25, 09:45 AM
Rich, definitely try installing X-Record again, it does most of the things on your wish list.
The first time I tried X-Record, I looked at it, and un-installed it. I simply didn’t understand (or like) the interface. I’m sure glad I gave it another try because I wouldn’t be without it these days.

Echoloc8 Wrote:1. Recording prioritization.
X-Record

Quote:3. "Future" keyword searches, i.e., TiVo Wishlists. The ability to put in a title/description/actor/director string that will trigger recordings in guide data that hasn't been downloaded yet. Does XRecord offer this? I haven't been able to tell.
Yes, X-Record allows future recordings that are not in the guide. And will record a show if key words in the title, sub-title or description are found (partial match).
I-xmltv (TVGuide Supercharger) adds cast & crew, genre, & user defined (date & genre) conditional matches to X-Record's recording capabilities.
TVListings & the Enhance WebAdmin, when used with I-xmltv allow you to search for shows (or a list of favorite shows) based on genre, favorite actors, movie rating or release date… ect.

Quote:4. Timed re-record protection.
RecTracker is part of X-Record, it keeps track of all the shows you record and avoids them in “forever” unless you remove them from the "watched" list.

Quote:5. "Channel-less" recurring recordings. Basically the ability to record a show no matter which channel it's being shown on. XRecord again?
Yep, X-Record again.
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2007-01-27, 12:47 AM
Echoloc8 Wrote:4. Timed re-record protection. If a TiVo records an episode of a show because of a Season Pass (recurring recording), it will, by default, decline to record that episode again for 28 days, to the extent guide data quality makes it possible, unless overridden by a specific request for that episode. I know GB-PVR will do its best not to record dupes of shows in Recordings (and do so better when using Zap2It), but if I delete Episode A of Show 123, and episode A re-airs the day after I delete it, then based on my experience A will be recorded again.

I would like to strongly echo this request!

This is one reason I can't get a couple people to drop their proprietary PVRs. Also, a number of friends who use GBPVR (at my recommendation) complain that they have to spend time re-deleting recordings they have already seen or (alternatively) have to spend time manually canceling them before they get record (again). [This is just about the ONLY complaint I ever hear . . .]

It seems this would be relatively simple to add, too. When deleting a recording, just keep the DB entry for a (user-specified) time.

The data model of the GBPVR database might need a couple enhancements (such as adding columns for when the RECORDING was deleted and when the ROW can be deleted), but these issues seem easily surmountable for a LOT of enhanced benefit.

Another related feature would be to record only "new" or "first aired" shows -- however, as Sub knows, not all guides have this information available.

Keep up the good work!


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2007-01-30, 05:34 AM
The Video Archive plug in has an option to prevent duplicate recordings (zap2it user only) and it works pretty well. You can use it as a replacement for the default "Recordings" screen/plug in, even if you don't have a need to "archive" anything.
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2007-01-30, 08:40 PM
bckappen Wrote:The Video Archive plug in has an option to prevent duplicate recordings (zap2it user only) and it works pretty well.

One significant issue here is that it is a plugin. I think basic PVR functionality should be part of the base GBPVR package.

Don't get me wrong, I think it is great(!) that GBPVR is extensible, but let's reserve that for enhanced or "nonstandard" functionality.
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2009-04-03, 08:29 AM
Just as an aside: it's interesting that XRecord does all that's described above. Looking at the wiki, I had no idea. Can the author of XRecord perhaps spend a bit of time writing a para or two for the Wiki explaining what XRecord actually does, and its benefits?
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2009-04-03, 08:42 AM
fbachofner Wrote:One significant issue here is that it is a plugin. I think basic PVR functionality should be part of the base GBPVR package.

Don't get me wrong, I think it is great(!) that GBPVR is extensible, but let's reserve that for enhanced or "nonstandard" functionality.

The functionality requested is mainly (only?) available in North America as most of the rest of the world don't have enough detail in their EPGs to support it.
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