Is 1.1.5 PVRX2 buggy as poop?

[Mad Professor]

My old setup with ASUS TV7133 and GBPVR 0.96, the tuner died on the card forcing me to buy a HVR1600 and update to 1.1.5 and I'm just having problems out the ass. First, I updated from 0.96 to 1.15 then had problems and I thought that was just broken code from updating from a severely out-dated version. so I did a fresh install in a different directory, doing a complete uninstall of the other copy before doing the install.

PVRX2 wasn't obeying the EPG when something was setup to record. Somehow I managed to fix it, I don't know how I did it, might have been the fresh install.

Doing stuff like moving up and down the menu cause the GUI part of PVRX2 to lock up, preventing me to see the desktop like crtl-shift-escape/delete or alt-tab, requires hard reset.

Watching recorded shows starting from the beginning without pausing it or FF or REW, everything works fine, then the minute you FF or REW or hell pause it then come back causes the audio to cut in and out or lags a little bit behind, and the picture is kind of skippy/jerky. * I personally think this is a decoder problem. Could someone recommend some decoders to me.*

Another thing is that the "KEYS" as in the buttons you push on the keyboard, the functions of PVRX2 don't obey or cause PVRX2 *not windows/system* to lockup so if you wanted to FF and press Ctrl+F it would either not do it or lockup. It does it randomly.

The system doesn't crash, thats if you're lucky to get to the desktop otherwise you're stuck looking at PVRX2 then you press ctrl+shift+escape or delete and see task manager pop up in the back of PVRX2 barely bleeding through, forcing you to reset the machine anyways.

The option "Use short skip instead of FF/REW" in misc is dead, as in it does nothing.

Few other things, but I can't remember them, so it must not be that big of issue.

System specs:

Socket 478 P4 2.6GHZ
Asrock G-pro
Two Kingston Value DDR266 256MB = 512MB
PNY Nvidia 6200
HVR1600 tuner
Seagate 8.4gig drive. *remote storage 2TB Fileserver*
DVD-ROM
Onboard ether and sound.
PSU: FSP Group 250watts.

WINDOWS XP PRO SP2 with ALL updates to date.


GB-PVR setup:

Playback:
Video decoder: DScaler mpeg 2 *I have other decoders, but they cause PVRX2 to Crash to Desktop or lockup*
Audio decoder: Dscaler mpeg 2 *Have other decoders, but they don't have effect*
Audio Renderer: System Default

PVRX2.exe Video Renderer: VMR9 Fullscreen Exclusive *tried others, no effect*

GBPVR.exe: VMR9

Capture source:
HVR 1600 using direct recording plugin


MISC:
Deinterlacing: Encoder pass-through.

[HtV]

Sounds like you are suffering the "timestamp problem" for your analogue side of the 1600. Do a search for it on the forum and you'll find the solution.
I would try another mpeg-decoder, there are free ones available (do a search aswell.
I think the shortskip instead of ff/rw is default now.
Are you sure your video-card is fully capable of vmr9? PVRX2 needs that. GBPVR can also run with vmr7 or overlay. Maybe new video drivers could help.

Hans

[Mad Professor]

Sounds like you are suffering the "timestamp problem" for your analogue side of the 1600. Do a search for it on the forum and you'll find the solution.
I would try another mpeg-decoder, there are free ones available (do a search aswell.
I think the shortskip instead of ff/rw is default now.
Are you sure your video-card is fully capable of vmr9? PVRX2 needs that. GBPVR can also run with vmr7 or overlay. Maybe new video drivers could help.

Hans

EDIT: Nevermind doesn't sound like my problem.
[COLOR="Silver"]Would you enlighten me with the details of this TIMESTAMP issue?

all I see is this

http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php...tamp+issue

[/COLOR]

I'll try to search for them, because the search on this forums picks up every tom, dick and mary on the block.

I already have the ATI MPEG decoders and the FFDSHOW MPEG-4 Decoder both cause PVRX2 to lock up.

Edit: DScalers on GBPVR are jerky/skippy or stuttering, but run smoothly on PVRX2 if you don't use FF/REW/PAUSE. But the ATI MPEG Decoders run smoothly on GBPVR but locks up on PVRX2 but GBPVR suffers the same as the DScalers. FFDSHOW crashes GBPVR and locks up PVRX2, I think it has something to do with subtitles/CC I would see it display bit of line text to what ever actor is onscreen at the bottom and then crash.

Yes, 6200 is DirectX 9 Capable card therefore should be able to drive the more GPU intensive VMR9. Its not the most powerful one unless you want me to drop a 7800GS in there, which I think is overkill anyways and I already have the latest drivers for the 6200 which is 169.21.

Edit:
Tried VMR7 and 9 on gbpvr both function fine, no problems. So we can rule that out.

[HtV]

wrt free video decoders: I did a search: http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php...eg+decoder

Try these and see what happens.

Wrt hvr 1600: Shouldn't you set up 2 capt sources, 1 analogue and 1 digital?

[Mad Professor]

Watching recorded shows starting from the beginning without pausing it or FF or REW, everything works fine, then the minute you FF or REW or hell pause it then come back causes the audio to cut in and out or lags a little bit behind, and the picture is kind of skippy/jerky. * I personally think this is a decoder problem. Could someone recommend some decoders to me.*

and

Edit: DScalers on GBPVR are jerky/skippy or stuttering, but run smoothly on PVRX2 if you don't use FF/REW/PAUSE. But the ATI MPEG Decoders run smoothly on GBPVR but locks up on PVRX2 but GBPVR suffers the same as the DScalers. FFDSHOW crashes GBPVR and locks up PVRX2, I think it has something to do with subtitles/CC I would see it display bit of line text to what ever actor is onscreen at the bottom and then crash.

Saw a post by SUB that suggested using the MPV decoder, and that fixed the problems quoted above.


Thats weird... now the keys work fine in PVRX2. I'm going to be surprise if I get stability just from switching decoders.

[Mad Professor]

wrt free video decoders: I did a search: http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php...eg+decoder

Try these and see what happens.

Wrt hvr 1600: Shouldn't you set up 2 capt sources, 1 analogue and 1 digital?

Well that depends, can I record analogue channels through the digital end? Assuming that I split the coax. If not, no point, if I want to use digital I would have to call brighthouse networks up and say I want digital and pay $100 and setup my PVR to work with a set-on-top box.

[HtV]

Well that depends, can I record analogue channels through the digital end? Assuming that I split the coax. If not, no point, if I want to use digital I would have to call brighthouse networks up and say I want digital and pay $100 and setup my PVR to work with a set-on-top box.

Aahh, ok, I assumed having a digital capable card meant you had a digital source.

[garyeuph]

regarding the 6200 card. i mine worked fine till I tried those new drivers - I got all sorts of probs with them. have gone back to version 93ish - sorry not at home - and all is great again. so I would suggest trying earlier drivers around 93.?

[Mad Professor]

PVRX2 wasn't obeying the EPG when something was setup to record. Somehow I managed to fix it, I don't know how I did it, might have been the fresh install.

Unable to reproduce, so it must have been the update from GBPVR 0.96 to 1.1.5.
Solution: Fresh install if you're around 0.95.

Doing stuff like moving up and down the menu cause the GUI part of PVRX2 to lock up, preventing me to see the desktop like crtl-shift-escape/delete or alt-tab, requires hard reset.

Cause: by DScalers 5 ver. 0.0.8
Solution: Try different decoders or update.

Watching recorded shows starting from the beginning without pausing it or FF or REW, everything works fine, then the minute you FF or REW or hell pause it then come back causes the audio to cut in and out or lags a little bit behind, and the picture is kind of skippy/jerky. * I personally think this is a decoder problem. Could someone recommend some decoders to me.*

Cause: Decoders.
Solution: I recommend MPV decoder and use FFDSHOW audio decoder.

Another thing is that the "KEYS" as in the buttons you push on the keyboard, the functions of PVRX2 don't obey or cause PVRX2 *not windows/system* to lockup so if you wanted to FF and press Ctrl+F it would either not do it or lockup. It does it randomly.

Cause: HIP! Ver. 3.0.1.3
Solution: Update to the latest version *3.0.2.8

The option "Use short skip instead of FF/REW" in misc is dead, as in it does nothing.

Cause: Sub removed that function from PVRX2 and force short skip.
Solution: Complain to sub that you want it back.


THANK YOU ALL FOR HELPING ME!
THANK YOU SUB FOR CREATING GBPVR OTHERWISE WE ALL WOULD BE ON COMMERCIAL DVR's!