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ATI 5450 XP to Win 7 Horror story leads to XP codec H.264 HDPVR playback discovery

 
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ATI 5450 XP to Win 7 Horror story leads to XP codec H.264 HDPVR playback discovery
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2010-03-23, 12:14 PM
Hey Everyone!

I wanted to share my horror story with the group here as I have some interesting information that will be of use to anyone who finds themselves in a situation like I just had over the past few days.

Let me start from my purchase of the ATI HD 5450 HTPC video card that is priced very low and is a Directx11 card with hard acceleration for video files...

Here is a review on the ATI 5000 series
ATI Radeon HD 5670, Radeon HD 5570 and Radeon HD 5450: A Multimedia Ideal?

This is a great article since it enlightened me to the fact that I should have waited for the 5550 instead as it will have dual HD stream support like the higher 5000 series cards which means the card will be future ready for 3d stereo bluray video. The ATI 5450 only has one and if I read the article before I bought my card I would have paid more for a higher version so I can have that. (Will prob never need it anyway haha) I bought a 1.5tb hard drive as well.

Ok so I installed the demo of Windows 7 on the new hard drive so I can see what all the eye candy goodness is all about with High Def media and EVR with gbpvr and was able to get everything pretty much installed minus the ir for the cable box switching. After trying various codec's and packs I found the Windows MP codec to be pretty good but only in EVR mode and although the picture seemed about 5 FPS smoother than in XP the video quality looks the same as FSE 9 in XP. Media player was great but took a while scanning my movie files...

Anyway without the IR to change my HDTV box working I had no choice but to reboot back into XP so I decided I was going to go into the bios and boot into one of the other drives with Windows XP and GBPVR. When I booted into XP I discovered my normal 1.5tb drive filled with movies was missing from the directories so I checked the plugs etc it was there just not in Windows. So I went into disk management in admin tools and found the hard drive to be a foreign disk (WTF?) I don't recall converting one ever but like they say you can't get pregnant on a toilet seat so I grinned and accepted I did it sometime before...Well I could not import the disk into XP and I was screwed big time. I thought the hard drive was dead as there was an error when trying to mount it. I booted back into Windows 7 and the drive showed up and was readable. Great so I thought I will just move all the movies off it onto the new drive and format it and hope the drive is ok. I had a deadline since my gf wanted to make sure I recorded "breaking bad" for her. No problem I thought just copy the files over to new drive and get back to xp and be done with it. Copying that large amount of files required all night and day. Reading from Microsoft's site stated you have to remove all the files before you can convert a dynamic disk to basic as it will destroy the files or something. I started to run out of space and needed about 300 gigs and I grabbed my old western digital green drive and thought I am home free Confusedo plugged it into Windows 7 and thee bugger had the same problem only in windows 7 hahaha.

2 hard drives are dynamic and married to a computer somehow so I searched Google to see if software existed to convert a dynamic disk to basic without destroying the data... Yep and nothing free.

I stumbled upon a post on a forum with a guide on how to do it here.
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=191006

Feeling brave to discover new things I loaded the hard drive into the hex editor and proceeded to change one byte of code rebooted and voila! my disk became basic and viewable on all computers with no loss in data!! Feeling braver I did it to the other 1.5tb drive no problems and all data saved. Bookmark the link if you lose your drive in another computer it may not be dead but be a dynamic drive meaning it is married more or less to the one computer.

So after recording the show I went back to windows 7 and played around with EVR in GBPVR and searched the net for answers to questions I had and found Media Player Home Cinema.
http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/

the players uses it's own internal filters to render files and I thought would give the best example of what the codec and acceleration should look like. EVR seemed to stutter so I picked the Overlay and played an HDPVR file and WOW clear crisp shard picture with no stuttering in full screen.

That is what I wanted so I searched for codec's and such more than before and everything I ever tried in XP was always sad for my rig. The only codec that was smooth and crisp was TME and I am sure they block the DXVA hardware assist to their software and I want the full deal in GBPVR and I think I have finally found it!

The software is called purecodec2009 and someone posted guide that they thought works well. You can read the guide here
http://iphonedaily.net/other-news/hardwa...usage.html

The codec they use is the cyberlink codec which had never worked for me out of every codec pack install I ever found it would always stutter and I was forced to use Total Media Extreme as it was smooth and worked well but I knew there had to be something better if I could find it and I think I have.

In the guide he specified Cyberlink for MKV and that BSOD in GBPVR but the good news is that selecting Cyberling DXVA instead worked in GBPVR and I have real smooth HDPVR video no audio problems and the video to me looks as good as it will ever be in a Windows XP system using FSE 9.

The guide is written for purecodec2008 and I have a link for you to purecodec2009 which doesn't have the BSOD Cyberlink codec so there ya go.
http://shawn.genplace.com/index.php/tech...-download/
Direct link
http://www.mediafire.com/?k2mzwwdz4mc

I didn't search the forum to see if someone posted the purcodec link before so I am sting this as a heads with the hope it will b of use to someone here

Let me know if you have problems or it works and good luck
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2010-03-24, 11:12 PM
pretty much all that functionality can be had from just ffdshow alone...
get the nightly edition from xxl, it has dxva h264/vc1 decoder also now, and add mpc-hc demuxers for mkv,mpeg2, and flv and you're all set...Smile
shoot, even ffdshow's software h.264 decoder is better than everything except for cyberlink's dxva one..
just got a lowly intel g41 and it works perfect with ffdshow software decode of bdroms..[g45 has hardware accell, g41-not]
of course there are certain settings you must adhere to tho..[nv12 or yuy2 colorspace,interlaced output, etc]
but the same settings work for almost every card..
soon i'll be making a hardware accelleraton guide, covering the major video chip types..
it's not that hard, if you can get drivers that work..[the hardest part of it all]
Hardware: HDHR Prime, HDPVR 1212, Raspberry pi2, VFD display w/LCDSmartie
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2010-03-25, 05:02 AM
hanks pBS!

I can't wait to read your guide when you write it. I have been hearing wonderful things but everytime i try he DXVA codec and select hardware DXVA in FFDSHOW settings I get a black screen in GBPVR and when I select VCI I get a picture but it seems like it stutters and the audio gets out of sync. Software works but is horrible as you can imagine.

I have the latest build with no luck and i am on XP.

Any ideas?

Cheers
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2010-03-25, 01:58 PM
No matter what I do I cannot get H.264 video to play in windows 7 with GBPVR or Media player classic.
What am I missing?

FFDSHOW codec doesn't work either.
Video is fine though.

I havn't tried ATSC yet since I need a better antenna for my card.

Same machine booting in XP works fine.
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2010-03-25, 02:38 PM
Probably a case of everything looking like a nail after you discover a hammer, but has anyone tried this?

http://www.medialooks.com/products/direc...ilter.html

It works for H.264 in Vista.
Gateway GM5664 with Vista Premium SP1 Transferred to Antec Fusion HTPC case
AMD Phenom 9600 Quad Core 2.3GHZ, 3GB PC5300 667MHZ Memory
3 Tuners: Avermedia Duet PCIe, HVR-1250 PCIe
LG GGC-H20N Blu-ray / HDDVD ROM Drive, Visiontek HD 3650 512 MB Graphics (Cat 9.6)
Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer, Gyration Media Center Remote Control
HDD: 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD - OS, 1TB (2x500GB) - Recordings
GBPVR: 1.4.7, Plugins - SuperSimpleArchiver, GBPVRCLi/LCD Smartie for VFD, Music Plugin
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