Weird: FWD Skip sometimes skips back!

[stu8080]

I havent noticed anyone else with this problem, but i seem to have suffered this since 97.9.

Sometimes (about half the time) i skip or FF the file actually goes backwards! Theres never anything in the logs to explain this and i dont know where i should be looking to explain this?

I have 98.8b, no plugins, and use 3 Nova-T's with the 34 button remote plugged into one, and 'direct access to Haup remote' enabled.

Lately i have also seen the weirdest of issues, instead of skipping backwards, the file freezes, and the 'WAV' volume in the sound panel in windows is reduced to zero. Again, i dont know where to look for the problem?

Any ideas what might cause this and what i could try changing?

[stefan]

According to the thread below, direct access should only work with the 250/350...
http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php?t=16677

[stu8080]

that might account for some weird behaviour!! thanks

I'll start running the haup IR software and see if that helps.

I'll let you know, cheers

[stu8080]

sorry to say it, but ive tried both the haup IR app and the USB-UIRT, with both 34 and 45 button remotes and when i FF the WAV volume drops to zero still.

[stu8080]

So far i think the Skip FWD going reverse seems ok, i'll wait a day or two on that and see.

[User]

I have seen the skip back when skipping forward on 98.8. I am trying to get a handle on it too. I do notice though that when this happens and I hit the blue button to display the timeline that the current position time (on the left) is not incrementing and it shows a time past where I have viewed. I suspect the database is being accessed at this point because I also get a 'database is locked' when I try to exit and watch the video again. When I get more details to where it's repeatable I'll post more. This is not the timeline/ driver problem.

[sub]

Skip seems to jump forward for me. If you can give me a some more info to narrow down the cause, let me know and I'll take a look.

Are these recordings that are in progress, or also recordings that have already completed?

[sub]

I suspect the database is being accessed at this point because I also get a 'database is locked' when I try to exit and watch the video again. When I get more details to where it's repeatable I'll post more. This is not the timeline/ driver problem.

I'd be interested to see some logs that show this, and ideally some details giving steps to reproduce it.

[Kristan]

Here's some log extracts for you

9/18/2006 22:49:31.217 VERBOSE [12] Request 200000 bytes (file size:926318592 file location: 599895217)
9/18/2006 22:49:31.593 VERBOSE [11] MVP data read: 1 (9)
9/18/2006 22:49:31.593 VERBOSE [11] MVP request processed
9/18/2006 22:49:32.000 VERBOSE [13] MVPGetCurrentFrameNumber 57950
9/18/2006 22:49:32.047 VERBOSE [12] Request 200000 bytes (file size:926318592 file location: 600095217)
9/18/2006 22:49:32.110 VERBOSE [11] MVP data read: 1 (9)
9/18/2006 22:49:32.110 VERBOSE [11] MVP request processed
9/18/2006 22:49:33.003 VERBOSE [12] Request 200000 bytes (file size:926318592 file location: 600295217)
9/18/2006 22:49:33.034 VERBOSE [13] MVPGetCurrentFrameNumber 58000
9/18/2006 22:49:33.065 VERBOSE [11] MVP data read: 1 (9)
9/18/2006 22:49:33.065 VERBOSE [11] MVP request processed
9/18/2006 22:49:33.097 VERBOSE [11] MVP data read: 1 (4)
9/18/2006 22:49:33.097 VERBOSE [11] User pressed: 43
9/18/2006 22:49:33.097 VERBOSE [11] MVP request processed
9/18/2006 22:49:33.144 VERBOSE [13] MVP async queue handling key: 43
9/18/2006 22:49:33.144 VERBOSE [13] Skipping forward: 0
9/18/2006 22:49:33.144 VERBOSE [13] MVPSetRelativePlaybackPosition(): 60 seconds
9/18/2006 22:49:33.144 VERBOSE [13] MVPSetRelativePlaybackPosition()@2
9/18/2006 22:49:33.144 VERBOSE [13] MVPGetCurrentFrameNumber 58000
9/18/2006 22:49:33.144 VERBOSE [13] Sending OSD frame
9/18/2006 22:49:33.332 VERBOSE [13] About to send incremental update
9/18/2006 22:49:33.582 VERBOSE [13] frame sent
9/18/2006 22:49:33.582 VERBOSE [13] MVP not sending frame
9/18/2006 22:49:33.817 VERBOSE [12] Request 200000 bytes (file size:926318592 file location: 600495217)
9/18/2006 22:49:33.911 VERBOSE [11] MVP data read: 1 (9)
9/18/2006 22:49:33.911 VERBOSE [11] MVP request processed
9/18/2006 22:49:33.942 VERBOSE [12] Relative skip: 60
9/18/2006 22:49:33.942 VERBOSE [12] Stream Length: 926318592
9/18/2006 22:49:33.942 VERBOSE [12] Stream Duration: 3703
9/18/2006 22:49:33.942 VERBOSE [12] Set position to:595365446
9/18/2006 22:49:33.958 VERBOSE [12] Received request to seek to pos:595365446
9/18/2006 22:49:33.989 VERBOSE [12] Request 200000 bytes (file size:926318592 file location: 595365446)
9/18/2006 22:49:34.036 VERBOSE [13] MVPGetCurrentFrameNumber 57500
9/18/2006 22:49:34.052 VERBOSE [13] Sending OSD frame
9/18/2006 22:49:34.068 VERBOSE [11] MVP data read: 1 (3)
9/18/2006 22:49:34.068 VERBOSE [11] MVP request processed
9/18/2006 22:49:34.068 VERBOSE [11] MVP data read: 1 (9)
9/18/2006 22:49:34.068 VERBOSE [11] MVP request processed
9/18/2006 22:49:34.083 VERBOSE [12] Request 200000 bytes (file size:926318592 file location: 595565446)
9/18/2006 22:49:34.115 VERBOSE [11] MVP data read: 1 (7)
9/18/2006 22:49:34.115 VERBOSE [11] Got RFB_MEDIA_CONTROL_ACK: 010100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
9/18/2006 22:49:34.162 VERBOSE [11] MVP request processed
9/18/2006 22:49:34.162 VERBOSE [11] MVP data read: 1 (9)
9/18/2006 22:49:34.162 VERBOSE [11] MVP request processed
9/18/2006 22:49:34.177 VERBOSE [12] Request 200000 bytes (file size:926318592 file location: 595765446)
9/18/2006 22:49:34.240 VERBOSE [12] Request 200000 bytes (file size:926318592 file location: 595965446)
9/18/2006 22:49:34.256 VERBOSE [11] MVP data read: 1 (9)
9/18/2006 22:49:34.256 VERBOSE [11] MVP request processed

You can see from the bits I've highlighted, it actually goes back - I find it tends not to be 60 seconds either, it's more like 5-10ish. To reproduce, just play a recorded file (in my case). It seems to work early on in the file (to skip the padding at the start), but by the time I get to adverts, pressing fwd goes back! I've not got any commercial detection or anything in so I don't think it's that.

I had assumed it was MVP related and was going to have a play, but if otheres are having problems I guess not!

[sub]

Are you guys all talking about MVPs? I can easily imagine it happening on an MVP.

MVPs would be a very different problem than seeing it on a PC.