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convert mpg to dvd w/o 15 minutes of hd noise?

 
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convert mpg to dvd w/o 15 minutes of hd noise?
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2006-12-23, 07:48 PM
i've computer a few mpgs totally 2.5 gb to dvd using ulead that came w/ wintv usb2 pvr2. however, it takes like 15 minutes just for it to build the dvd and create a vob file. this doesn't include the actual burning time. any other programs faster than that? during that time, computer hd is screaming like crazy...
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2006-12-23, 10:20 PM
yep, if you have the ulead dvd movie factory [or video studio i believe also]

just setup your compilation as usual, but when going to burn, change format to dvd-video/fast re-editable.....[instead of just dvd-video] and it will not have to create any temp file at all..will burn straight from your .mpg to dvd disc..!

whole thing will only take as much time as burning...you'll notice the dvd starts burning right away..
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2006-12-23, 11:28 PM
pBS Wrote:yep, if you have the ulead dvd movie factory [or video studio i believe also]

just setup your compilation as usual, but when going to burn, change format to dvd-video/fast re-editable.....[instead of just dvd-video] and it will not have to create any temp file at all..will burn straight from your .mpg to dvd disc..!

whole thing will only take as much time as burning...you'll notice the dvd starts burning right away..

and it's still playable on all dvd standalones? any other programs that do similar thing?
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2006-12-24, 03:23 AM
pBS Wrote:yep, if you have the ulead dvd movie factory [or video studio i believe also]

just setup your compilation as usual, but when going to burn, change format to dvd-video/fast re-editable.....[instead of just dvd-video] and it will not have to create any temp file at all..will burn straight from your .mpg to dvd disc..!

whole thing will only take as much time as burning...you'll notice the dvd starts burning right away..

hi, i get this error when i use staples dvd+r.

"the dvd type is not available for the disc. continue this action will change the output disc as a standard dvd disc. continue? you can cancel this action to change the disc to a rewritable dvd disc and try again."

does it mean i need dvd+rw or -rw?
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2006-12-24, 07:57 AM
It just sounds like it can't automatically tell whether the disk is rewriteable or not, so treats it as a non-rewriteable disk unless you say different - just click continue.
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2006-12-29, 04:27 PM
any updates on a quicker solution for burning dvd from mpg? it currently takes about 25 minutes to pre-process the file in ulead before it creates a vob and then burns the dvd. seems like it needs around 9 gb for a 4.5 gb file for a temporary stoarage directory. coudln't get that 'fast' option to work and it reverts to dvd-video.
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2006-12-29, 05:24 PM
A couple of notes on Ulead (and most other authoring programs).
First, It does take time to prepare the files (VOB. IFO, etc) in the authoring process. 25 minutes is a little long but not unusual.

Second, let the program create an ISO and skip the burn process. Let another program do the actual burning. Ulead's burning engine does not support most newer drives at full speed. Something like ImgBurn or DVDDecrypter would control the burning process much better.

Third, two hard drives, preferably on different controllers, is a must. You could get faster results accross a 10/100 LAN that from reading and writing back and forth to the same hard drive. This alone could drop times down under 10 minutes and save a lot of wear and tear on the drives.

Fourth, defragging drives periodically, or having formatted them with large clusters, will speed the process also. If you started with the drive as fat32 at some point and "converted" it to NTFS then you will have 512 byte (not Kbyte) clusters which will absolutely not work correctly with video files.

Fifth, some of the "SE" OEM versions (3.0 for sure and possibly 4.0) can be made to author files with AC3 audio tracks, even though they're not supposed to. Ask if you want to know how.
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2006-12-29, 05:31 PM
zaphod7501 Wrote:A couple of notes on Ulead (and most other authoring programs).
First, It does take time to prepare the files (VOB. IFO, etc) in the authoring process. 25 minutes is a little long but not unusual.

Second, let the program create an ISO and skip the burn process. Let another program do the actual burning. Ulead's burning engine does not support most newer drives at full speed. Something like ImgBurn or DVDDecrypter would control the burning process much better.

Third, two hard drives, preferably on different controllers, is a must. You could get faster results accross a 10/100 LAN that from reading and writing back and forth to the same hard drive. This alone could drop times down under 10 minutes and save a lot of wear and tear on the drives.

Fourth, defragging drives periodically, or having formatted them with large clusters, will speed the process also. If you started with the drive as fat32 at some point and "converted" it to NTFS then you will have 512 byte (not Kbyte) clusters which will absolutely not work correctly with video files.

Fifth, some of the "SE" OEM versions (3.0 for sure and possibly 4.0) can be made to author files with AC3 audio tracks, even though they're not supposed to. Ask if you want to know how.

neat info. so do u want ur drive as fat32 or ntfs?

i once tried burning dvd across cat5 by sharing a folder w/ mpg in it and the burn was a failure. ended up dragging mpg file to a different computer w/ dvd burner and it worked... file transfer for 4.5 gb about 10-15 minute.

looks like i'll need to get an external hd or something...
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2006-12-29, 08:29 PM
tunanugget Wrote:neat info. so do u want ur drive as fat32 or ntfs?
You generally want NTFS because fat32 has a 4Gb file size limit. You can work within that limit but it can get annoying with video files. You just don't want to "convert" fat32 disks: you want to "format" (or reformat) them with the desired file system. You can usually pick the cluster size when you do that.

Quote: i once tried burning dvd across cat5 by sharing a folder w/ mpg in it and the burn was a failure. ended up dragging mpg file to a different computer w/ dvd burner and it worked... file transfer for 4.5 gb about 10-15 minute.
I do this occasionally but I know my LAN is pretty well set up. If you want to use a networked drive, with the original file on the local PC, you would have Ulead put the temp files on the remote PC and the final ISO on the local PC (with the burner). The workflow with Ulead would be:
Read local - Write distant. Then:
Read distant - Write local.

Quote: looks like i'll need to get an external hd or something...
Drives are fairly inexpensive and an internal drive is going to be much faster. Some stores even offer cheap installation. It's not like you'd have to re-install the operating system. It would just be a data drive. While USB2.0 is theoretically fast enough, Firewire may be better for long sustained file transfers; but an internal drive will outpace both by a wide margin.
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2006-12-29, 10:49 PM
zaphod7501 Wrote:While USB2.0 is theoretically fast enough, Firewire may be better for long sustained file transfers; but an internal drive will outpace both by a wide margin.

And for modern PCs there's e-sata, external that is. Just as fast as internal sata, just a different connector and better shielding for the cables. Haven't actually seen any drives but there should be some, might be a bit more expensive though.

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