Using Girder: Is the idea to disable the GB-PVR remote setting?

[mixedup]

Hi,

Can I ask:

Q1 - Is the idea to disable the GB-PVR remote setting when using Girder to (a) enable some remote buttons that aren't functional as I have 2005 MCE remote and (b) override some keys which are not working for me [e.g. the "PC power" key on my 2005 MCE remote tries to put my PC in to hibernate mode which is really bad]?

Q2 - I wonder whether it is possible to leave GB-PVR configured with a remote so I only have to then configure girder with the extra keys and override keys, hence keeping things a lot simpler re girder configuration? That is, this would require that if Girder matched a keypress it would process, but then GB-PVR would not process it, and if Girder didn't match the keypress then GB-PVR would process. I'm not sure if this is possible or how/where one would configure the precendence for the two remote keypress listener applications (i.e. GBPVR and Girder).

Thanks

[sub]

I dont use Girder, so I'm not a great person to answer questions about it, but I'll give it a go.

When you configure GB-PVR's setting to use the "default (Hauppauge)" remote, then GB-PVR doesnt do anything special for the remote. With this setting GB-PVR is effectively controlled entirely by keyboard. In theory, with this setting, you should then be able to configure Girder to post keystroke messages to the GB-PVR window when you receive events from your MCE remote. This is what the Hauppauge ir.exe utility does for the Hauppauge remotes.

[mixedup]

Thanks - this is exactly what I was trying to understand. I've got girder successfully sending keystroke commands to notepad even when it doesn't have the focus, so I should be now able to (a) configure GB-PVR for the default remote as you've said and (b) point the girder scripts to GB-PVR. So this implies no doubt I will need to make sure all the keys are mapped. (I do have a girder script from someone else as a starting point)

BTW - Really love the system. Still finalising a few issues to get it to a point I can really embrace but I'm closing in fast

[sub]

Good to hear you're making progess.

I'm sure a few MCE2005 remote users will appreciate your write up when you've got it sussed.

[Necro]

mixedup, I don't really understand what your trying to do aside from a basic config, but girder works fine with GBPVR. Just don't turn on any remote stuff/etc. in the config file and have it send keyboard shortcuts to the GBPVR window and gbpvr.exe (the first and third checkbox on the 'target' screen).

It works 100% fine for me. Also, if your using it with other programs, I suggest doing what I did and do a batch file to run GBPVR that has one line to command line switch the active group in girder, then another to run GBPVR, then another to switch the active groups back when girder closes.

I had some issues with girders 'focus based' method of hotswapping groups with my (Pinnacle) remote.

[mixedup]

hi necro

I've ok now with tailoring the girder scripts to work when gbpvr is not in the foreground which is great (some of the girder config files which were posted hadn't got to this trouble - which is understandable if they're not trying to share the PC).

The remaining issue that I have which would be nice to solve is how to DISABLE / REMAP some of the MCE remote keys like

a) PC power off/on - as this puts my PC into a spin trying to STANDBY

b) number buttons - as these DO get sent to the foreground application (hence impacting on someone using the PC on another application)

c) windows green button - I've seen some windows keyboard remapping suggestions here on this front

It seems the fundamental issue is that this is built into the MCE REMOTE drivers (I'm guessing). Any idea?

Thanks

[Necro]

Yeah, there you lost me. If your using girder, have you checked there website to see if there are suggestions there? That would be the best bet honestly - people have made that program do some crazy ass things. I would check for configurable plugins for girder itself that would read the MCE remote...

This might mean not using the 'standard' mce remote driver.

I'm not sure exactly how you have it setup now, but it soulds like your catching keypresses from the remote and 'reconfiguring' them to be sent to girder. Def. not the best way to do it.

Check here for the plugin:
http://www.promixis.com/downloads.php?mo...ucCode=800

[mixedup]

got this one - thanks though - I think I've got the important parts working now - would probably be fighting a losing battle from here on in re my points a) and b) above

BTW - I'd be interested in seeing your start scripts you mentioned if its easy to post (haven't quite got to that step yet)

(this PVR concept is fantastic overall hey - no more TAPES, no more trying to transcode AVI's to MPEG2 then burn to DVD etc )

[mixedup]

doh! I hadn't checked the ARROW keys.:mad:

Whilst I have mapped them to GB-PVR such that GB-PVR doesn't have to have the focus, the issues are that:

(a) the MCE remote o/s driver (I assume) still wants to ALSO send the up/down/left/right commands to the active windows, hence impacting a user using the PC (i.e. sharing) and more importantly

(b) there is a double button button press that occurs on gbpvr (e.g. push the up button once, and it goes up 2 levels)

Any ideas welcomed (however I realise this is likely to be a MCE remote driver issue - not sure where the associated use forum would be for this??? - I might look into a media centre edition forum)

Necro - I'd still be interested in seeing your start scripts you mentioned if its easy to post and you don't mind (haven't quite got to that step yet)

[djgietzen]

well, I don't know about the active window problem but for the second problem of doing the command twice.

The problem is your remote iss ending the trigger twice. There is an option when you program the command for a milasecond delay before it will accept the trigger event again. With my remote (not a MCE remote) changing that to 100 milaseconds stopped the repeates.


For the 1st problem, try and remove the drivers for the mce remote from the OS. Install a program called WinLirc and the pluging for girder for that app. Teach WinLirc how to understand your remote. Might work, might suck.